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Rudy Guiliani has marched in lockstep with liberals on affirmative action, gay rights, gay marriage, gun control, school prayer, tuition tax credits, liberal immigration policies, and he's reinforced it, time and time again. Just about everytime Rudy opens his mouth, offensive liberal words come pouring out. As Mayor, Rudy put liberals in high-paid city jobs, an indication what a Rudy WH would look like. Here then is Rudy in his own words:

--The New York State Liberal Party on its endorsement of Rudy Giuliani for Mayor: "When the Liberal Party Policy Committee reviewed a list of key social issues of deep concern to progressive New Yorkers, we found that Rudy Giuliani agreed with the Liberal Party's stance on a majority of such issues. He agreed with the Liberal Party's views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer and tuition tax credits. As Mayor, Rudy Giuliani would uphold the Constitutional and legal rights to abortion." N.Y.S. Liberal Party Endorsement Statement of Candidate Giuliani for Mayor of New York City April 8, 1989

--On the Republican Party: "Mr. Rockefeller represented 'a tradition in the Republican Party' I've worked hard to re-kindle - the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition." Rudy Giuliani told the New York Times July 9, 1992

--Village Voice Interview with Guiliani: He was asked: "What kind of Republican Is [Giuliani]? A Reagan Republican?" Giuliani pauses before answering: "I'm a Republican." Village Voice January 24, 1989

--On Attending 1996 Republican Convention: Rudy expressed his pleasure when he wasn't invited to the Republican National Convention in San Diego. "If I take three or four days off from city business, I want to do it for a substantive purpose. It didn't seem to me any substantive purpose could be served by going to the Republican convention." said Rudy. Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Page 459, by Wayne Barrett

--On Barry Goldwater: Giuliani described John Kennedy as "great and brilliant. Barry Goldwater as an "incompetent, confused and sometimes idiotic man." New York Daily News, May 13, 1997

--On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

--The Daily News quoted Giuliani as saying March 1996: "Whether you talk about President Clinon, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group." An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

Please first look at my post #254 on this thread.

It is clear from your heartfelt, well reasoned, and intelligent presentation that you should not vote for Guiliani in the Republican primary. As a strong supporter of Guiliani, I do not intend on challenging you as to what this means for a Guiliani presidency at this time. I respect your opposition and know that I will not change your mind. I do offer the following thought to think about if Rudy is nominated by the Republicans. New York City is not a venue where a mayor can espouse a consistently strong conservative viewpoint. On crime, Rudy challenged the liberal orthodoxy manifested by his predecessor Dinkins and took strong controversial steps to significantly reduce crime. One only needs to look at Times Square to see marked evidence of his success. Rudy's positions on the WOT do not take a backseat to anyone.

While I am not asking you now to change your objections to Guiliani in the primary, nor do I expect you to be other than frustrated and angered if Guiliani is nominated. If that occurs, then I am asking you to rise above those feelings and engage in the choice ahead in a thoughtful manner. You are exactly the type of person that I will challenge to strongly support Guiliani if matched up against Hillary.

One thing that I want to be clear with you on. I recognize that your feelings at this time are focused on and so strong anti-Guiliani and you might feel that there is no way you can support him under any circumstances - even against Hillary. My head up the butt comment does not pertain to such a current assessment at this time as the focus is more
on who will be the Republican candidate. There is no rationale reason for you at this time to reflect upon a Guiliani vs Clinton race. There will be ample time for such reflection if and when the race comes about. As a person who is able to think, I do believe (or at least hope that you would believe) with my head up the butt assessment.