A Message to Rudy Giuliani and His Supporters (VANITY)

Self | February 23, 2007 | Alberta's Child

[Old_Mil]

An excellent post which sums up the reasons why I, and others who think like me will never be talked, bribed, cajoled, or threatened into voting for Rudy. Now his supporters may make a calculation that there simply aren't enough conservatives who care about the issues you cite to make a difference in an election. Perhaps they are right. In my estimation, if Rudy is nominated because there's a split in the conservative constituency among several candidates, Rudy will lose the general election by historic proportions...and rightfully so.

[wolfcreek]

"I'm a Rudy Supporter. Not sure how I got pinged."


So, what did you think of info in this thread? Make you want a stiff drink?

[George W. Bush]

Well, some of us read the threads for the articles.

I think some people read them just for the softcore tranny pron. Look how popular they are.

[TommyDale]

You need to see the other reply after this one to you. I am not a Newt supporter.

I disagree with the idea that one must be in the race already, or two full years before the election.

[Carry_Okie]

Call me paranoid, and call me judgmental, but something about this whole thing just ain’t right.

IMO, the globo-corporate mediot purpose of running Rudy Giuliani is to assure that Hillary gets elected. If he wins the nomination, many disheartened conservatives stay home and she wins. If a conservative is nominated, Rudy's campaign will have fomented the RINOs to turn to a McCain third party run or the equivalent. If we want a prayer of having a conservative in the White House, we need to end this charade EARLY.

IMO, that means promoting the only unambiguous conservative with cross party appeal in the race: Duncan Hunter. His stands on trade and illegal immigration are likely to enlist a great many cross-over votes.

[Corin Stormhands]

I think some people read them just for the softcore tranny pron. Look how popular they are.

Well yes, the Anti-Rudy Oompa Loompas* do seem to be fascinated by them.

*AROL: Anti-Rudy Oompa Loompas - necessary to the story, but they sure are annoying...

JoinRudy2008 * Virginia is for Rudy * The Ward View

[NathanR]

And how could we forget the recent Evolution purges.

Those purges drained half of the blood from this forum.

[EternalVigilance]

Those purges drained half of the blood from this forum.

Don't worry. We'll evolve more.

/s

[SeaBiscuit]

Good post. It's way past time to put this country back on track, which means NO LIBERALS of any sort.

[Glenn]

Jim Robinson himself had them restored and gave that post a green light.

If Rudy (or any other Rino) gets the nomination, FreeRepublic will be his biggest supporter. I saw the transformation Robinson went through when Bush became the chosen one. I have no reason to believe it will be any different this time. Everyone should get it out of their systems now.

[wolfcreek]

"If this is an indication of what is going on with all conservatives, the GPO is in big trouble IMO"


Fortunately, if you have been keeping up with the latest goings-on, the Dims seem to have a few problems of their own. Rush, like him or not, is prophesying their eminent demise. Personally, I think they're like roaches.......just when you think they're all dead, then another one shows up.

[Gop1040]

"I disagree with the idea that one must be in the race already, or two full years before the election"

Say what? You don't have "two full years" (21 months to be exact). The first (NH) primary is less than one year away. Scheduled candidates' debates start in a few months. If you wait for your pristine candidate (Newt's not good enough) to reveal him/herself, it'll be too late.

Without you proposing and backing an alternative to Rudy soon, sounds like you've already ceded the primary to him. Good, now we can on to the general election.

[Elyse]

There was a Rudy supporter that posted his accomplishments, and what he has done. I'd rather look at that information, than this.

The point is that you should look at all the information not just his accomplishments. Most everyone knows all of Rudy's good points. That's the problem. I was ready to crown him King of America after 9/11, but like most people I had no idea of what his views on ALL the issues were. I just saw the (R) after his name and thought he was a conservative on most issues, but now we see he isn't and people need to know that.

You might be tired of seeing these views expressed in many different threads, but new people log onto FR every day and this might be the first and only thread they see that shows them a more complete view of Guiliani. If you disagree with anything said then you should post and give your opinion, but there needs to be pro and anti views expressed on all the candidates so we know the pros and cons on all of them.

[wolfcreek]

"As for immigration, the typical illegal immigrant in NYC didn't come across the Mexican border."


We're not talking about NY anymore....We're talking about a philosophy that will effect the entire country. I'm from Texas and believe me, We are more visibly Hispanic than ever.

[Silly]

[George W. Bush]

If Rudy (or any other Rino) gets the nomination, FreeRepublic will be his biggest supporter. I saw the transformation Robinson went through when Bush became the chosen one. I have no reason to believe it will be any different this time.

I'm not sure. I notice that JimRob already has posted about ten times as many tough anti-Rudy posts as he posted about Bush in the entire nomination process. And JimRob actually had picked a horse in that race so his stake could be said to have been higher against Bush. JimRob doesn't have a candidate yet this time.

JimRob is a constitutionalist. That's what FR was established to be. That was the yardstick by which the pre-Bush FR measured everything, not just JimRob but pretty much everyone. You should have seen some of those old threads, like reading the fine points of constitutional law, especially when Xlinton issued an executive order.

During the Bush era with a congressional majority, it just became less popular to take on our own party, especially since they weren't gungrabbers or pro-abortion, the red-meat issues in the Xlinton era along with Monicagate, UN deployments, etc. Did the GOP majority spend too much? Sure. NCLB? Flaky. But not enough for armed insurrection or doing the Dims any favors by fracturing the party either.

Times have changed, our GOP majority gone and Bush lameducked. And Rudy Giuliani is the embodiment of the northeast liberal establishment. Rudy is the anti-Reagan Republican. And that is how I see JimRob's opposition to him. JimRob has returned to his steady compass of constitutionalism. I try not to dis the Big Tent too much but it really is true that political purity is easier when you're in the minority. Beyond that, a substantial defeat like we suffered in '06 should make anyone return to their party's bedrock principles.

[just in case his grep isn't working, I pinged JimRob]

[b9]

if anyone is around San Diego, evidently, he is having breakfast fund raiser tomorrow. It's a little too far for pancakes for me, though:')

Where?

[RinaseaofDs]

Like most Anti-Rudyites out there, there's the diatribe, then silence.

If you don't like Rudy, then who do you like that has a ghost of a chance of winning?

[CindyDawg]

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