Posted on 02/23/2007 7:45:02 AM PST by Alberta's Child
On the top 4 issues I care about they ahve the same view. I will not vote for the liberal slime.
You didn't say it but it most certainly is inferred. We both are only guessing what he may do but I think there is a lot more evidence that he believes that these issues are best left to state and local governments.
He is joined at the hip with NARAL, Planned Parenthood, and the rest of the abortion savages. God only knows what they are planning behind closed doors to expand their "precious" abortion (gag) rights.
"The3 number of peoiple who have publically stated they will go third party rather then vote for Rino Rudy"
I'll be fishing that day so you can add me as well.
Thanks for the ping.
At the end of the day, I'l, support the GOP candidate with the best chance of defeating the DNC candidate,
If you believe that's Duncan Hunter, or Newt, or Sam Brownback, that's fine...your job is to get the candidate of your choice ahead of the DNC candidate on the polls, then to get him the GOP nomination.
At this point in time, it looks as if Rudy stands the best chance of beating the DNC; and while I would rather see a candidate with more conservative views in the ballot, I will not allow perfection to cancel out good, so I support Rudy.
Get your guy past him in the polls, and you have my support.
I cannot by my actions or my inactions, to see another Clinton in the Oval Office, so I will vote for whoever's name is on the ballot with an "R" next to it.
Also, if anyone is around San Diego, evidently, he is having breakfast fund raiser tomorrow. It's a little too far for pancakes for me, though:')
We have been called knuckle dragging neanderthals. It has been stated numerous times that it is good riddance if we cannot support Rudy any more than we could get behind Joe Lieberman as a Republican nominee. While it is possible that I will surrender, feel the shame, and vote against Hillary, there are many that will not. It is becoming less and less a possibility as the anti-social conservative rhetoric ramps up on the Rudy threads.
I don’t disagree with the fact that they want a better life, certainly Mexico and many places in South America leave a lot to be desired in the way of opportunity and career growth. Also, I have seen the poverty and squalor in which many of them live. It’s not much different than the poverty and squalor many of our immigrant relatives lived in before they came to the US. The difference is that, for most of us, our relatives emigrated here legally. America is an immigrant nation whose past is filled with the contributions of immigrants from every walk of life. To say that we don’t want or need immigration is absurd at its core. But, what most of us desire is that the immigrants come here legally. I for one think Americans should be honored anytime someone abandons their home country to relocate to ours; they pay us a huge compliment. But, more than anything else I can imagine, those immigrants coming to America must come here legally. When someone breaks into your house, they have committed a felony crime of breaking and entering. America is our home, and these people are coming in uninvited. Living in poverty simply doesn’t justify the wholesale violation that is occurring on a massive scale.
I think it's a big stretch to lump illegal immigrants in with thieves, murders and rapists.
I don’t. Thieves, murderers and rapists are as much criminals as illegal immigrants. In fact, violating our national sovereignty, for many, is only the beginning of their crime spree. Many have gone on to become thieves, rapists and murderers as well as drug runners and minor thugs. We can adequately grow our own supply of those types of folks, we don’t need them coming from outside of America to set up shop here. Granted, the vast majority are not thieves, rapists and murderers, they are just in my house without my permission. The fundamental criminal offense still exists. However, even for the vast majority of illegals, the crime spree doesn’t stop there. They must acquire documents that allow them to work. Social Security cards and/or drivers licenses are either stolen directly by the illegal, or they are purchased from someone else who stole them, or they are purchased from someone who forged them. So, the very people who just came here to make a better life for themselves and/or their families, are now supporting and supplementing additional criminal enterprises.
Illegals cause problems but also create opportunities.
Yes, they do. They create opportunities for “coyotes”, document forgers, sex slave traders, exploiters, bilingual teachers, bilingual doctors and nurses, drug kingpins, etc. That’s probably not what you meant, but it is a fact of life for the majority. They live in the shadows and are afraid to complain to the police for fear that they will be arrested and deported (how is coming here better for them?). Also, they come here demanding that we accommodate them. Many make little or no effort to learn our language or our customs and try to assimilate. Instead, they take space in our schools and demand bilingual education because they are too lazy to learn our language. They have burdened public health facilities to the extent that many clinics and taxpayer supported hospitals have had to close due to being driven bankrupt by illegals. Even Mexican health facilities on the border will send uninsured patients across the border to the US for treatment so that they don’t have to absorb those costs. Despite the whining stories of the MSM, not all illegals come here to tend lawns, wash dishes, bus tables or perform other functions that “Americans” won’t do. That’s totally untrue. After the Swift raid, how many people showed up to apply for their jobs? If I recall correctly, it was something like 3,000 Americans who showed up to apply for those jobs that Americans won’t do. And, in increasing numbers today, many of those sneaking across the border are bookkeepers, accountants, teachers and pharmacists. I haven’t heard of any Americans unwilling to do those jobs.
Rudy Giuliani is for abortion, but I'd be shocked if he would mention the word even once as President.
I would, too. But the crux of the issue isn’t necessarily about his direct, hands-on association with abortion, it’s about his ability to affect it indirectly, as well as other critical issues, that raise the concern about his public/private position. Because, whomever is elected in ’08 will get to make more SCOTUS appointments and, therein, is where many of these issues reside. Giuliani, as president, wouldn’t have to directly address the issue of Roe v. Wade, he could leave his mark via whatever SCOTUS appointments he might be able to make and get approved through the Senate. This is why the personal preferences of the president matter a great deal. President Bush didn’t directly tackle abortion, but his two SCOTUS nominees will do that for him, should the issue come before the court again. Clinton didn’t have to acknowledge that he was a raving fan of socialism and judicial activism, he let his judicial nominees do that on his behalf. Looking at the many screwy rulings coming off of the bench, it doesn’t take a great deal of effort to track the judge down and discover that the president who nominated the judge was just as screwy as the judge is. So, it doesn’t take a direct association, just a means to affect things for decades to come such as through a court appointment.
America is even more socialist now than in 2000 and 2004..
Hitlery WILL BE elected because of that in 2008.. no matter who survives the primarys,
even Newt or Duncan..
Bush has fractured the party like an auto windshield.. because of immigration and fiscal faux pas.. He(Bush) barely won in 2000 and 2004.. 2008 is another story.. America is getting itself brain washed.. and as 2008 gets closer the propaganda will get much more intense..
Already Ellen DeGeneres and Oprah are linking up.. Letterman and Leno are already working daily.. 2008 is another animal.. Republicans mostly are clueless.. or in denial..
You know.... Ostriches...
Please do FReepmail me when you hear back from Hunter.
Ping.
Alberta's Child, YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!
"and nor, quite frankly, is New York City. People who walk around New York City can take some comfort in the notion that there are 40,000 police officers in that jurisdiction, and that few of their fellow pedestrians are permitted to carry guns. The city is just a place to do business, and for all intents and purposes these people aren’t even Americans anyway "
When I was a little kid growing up in New Jersey many years ago, after many visits to New York City, I EVEN THEN concluded that America began at the Hudson River.
Sadly, due to the diffusion of liberal New Yorkers into the Garden State, and in some cases, even PA, America now begins at the Delaware River. Not that ALL New York City residents are liberals - but the voting record and election results over many decades indicates that a great many of them - the vast majority - are.
This is a GREAT piece. It deserves to be on FOX News, or Hannity or Mark Levin or in the National Review. You very cogently make the case against Giuliani and lay out clearly and logically why he is not the personality he is attempting to morph himself into.
Like most people here, I'm a conservative first, which explains why I am a Republican. I will work very hard for a conservative Republican like Hunter, or Gingrich. Should the unthinkable happen and Giuliani, Romney or McCain get the nomination, I certainly will never vote for the Democrat, but I will have to do some serious soul searching about voting for any of the latter three candidates. But what I decide will have little impact on the repsonse in America's heartland to any one of these three loosers. Enough of the conservative majority of the Republican base will fail to support them, guarenteeing a Hillery victory. (And I don't for one minute believe Obama or anyone else in that party can compete effectively against a dup who made Arkancide a word in the English Language.)
My prediction is that Giuliani will get nominated due tot he number of candidates running. Hunter will get exposure as a viable conservative alternative. History will repeat itself and, as with the case with Ford, Giuliani will loose to Hillery. Hillery, with the help of the Democrat Congress and RINOs will turn America into a living hell - a leftist basketcase. In 2010 the Repubs will take back the Congress and then in 2012, the Presidency. Hillery, lacking the sleazy finesse and oratorical skill, as well as the pragmatism of her consort, will be a one-term President and in her last two years will be crippled by a hostile COngress.
Quit making sense!! You are spoiling the thread! :)
Well, some of us read the threads for the articles.
There's a substantial discussion upthread about the posting of the pictures. You apparently missed it.
I think he used to be our Governor or something...
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