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To: MadIvan
"The voice of realism"

The voice of a man with no convictions worth fighting for.

28 posted on 02/23/2007 4:16:15 AM PST by Afronaut (Supporting Republican Liberals is the Undeniable End to Freedom)
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To: Afronaut
I'm really curious how so many "conservative" Republicans can jump on this man's bandwagon when they know absolutely nothing about him other than he's an admitted gay supporting, gun grabbing abortionist who happens to believe global warming is a big "fixable" problem and he likes illegal aliens coming to work. Where's his position statements on anything of importance?
32 posted on 02/23/2007 4:32:32 AM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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To: Afronaut
The voice of a man with no convictions worth fighting for.

There are a variety of methods by which one can fight for convictions. Some of us regard sinking them into a hopeless third party candidacy as being a particularly ineffective way.

Ivan

35 posted on 02/23/2007 4:36:06 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Afronaut; familyop; Jim Robinson; blam; dirtboy
Julie-Annie's 2008 handlers showcase Rudy as the "new" Republican----but longtime Repubs are skeptical, characterizing him as a rank opportunist, an individual totally immersed in the Planned Parenthood lifestyle (anathema to social conservatives who are the most important Repub voting bloc).

EXHIBIT ONE Giuliani ran three times for mayor on New York's Liberal Party line. At the same time he distanced himself from the state’s influential Conservative Party, even refusing to foreswear P/B abortion that would have gotten him conservatve backing.

Others question Rudy’s loyalty to the party. In New York’s hotly contested 1994 gubernatorial race he endorsed liberal incumbent Democrat Mario Cuomo against a Republican (Cuomo lost despite Julie's backing). He has voiced support for other liberal Democrats, including Bill Clinton.

EXHIBIT TWO Giuliani’s flawed judgment raised eyebrows in the aftermath of 9/11 when, drunk with power, Julie-Annie sought to suspend the city’s election laws to extend his mayoral term of office. Even blase liberal NY'ers wouldn't buy Julie's naked power grab.

EXHIBIT THREE The myth about Giuliani's credentials on homeland security, and military matters.....is manufactured by his handlers.

CASE IN POINT: Giuliani recently "lost" his mayoral campaign's vulnerabilities playbook. He publicly blamed the "opposition" (Hillary's old VRWC trick). Julie-Annie wanted us to believe that an airport employee knew precisely in which bag, and in which binder the critical documents were, sneaked them out of the bag, copied them, then stealthily returned them to the bag without anyone knowing it.

Giuliani's campaign organization obviously has a leaker, and Julie-Annie did not deal with it? He placed blame on "someone" at the airport. If he was so sure it was an airport employee, did he demand an investigation? Did he file charges?

No, he did not because he knew the story was bogus .......and don't forget that Giuliani is the owner and operator of a multi-million dollar "security" company (formerly known as Giuliani-Kerik LLC).

EXHIBIT FOUR "Security expert" Rudy co-opted GWB into naming his mobbed-up buddy, Bernie Kerik, as Home/Land/Sec chief (Kerik is Rudy's former driver and bodyguard). Kerik was ushered out the WH door when dirt spilled about his hiring an illgal nanny. Married Kerik was also having trysts in an apartment set-aside for 9/11 workers. Kerik later pleaded guilty to misdemeanors for accepting gifts from a company that was trying to do business with New York while he was corrections commissioner.

Giuliani and Kerik were partners in a SECURITY company, and Julie-Annie STILL didn't vett Kerik (leaving GWB embarrased before a global audience).

Some security expert---I wouldn't let Giuliani walk my dog.

42 posted on 02/23/2007 4:39:30 AM PST by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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