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To: si tacuissem

It is understood that the flood was around 4,300-4,500 years BC whenyou look at the geneology to Noah, there recorded in the bible and also recorded 1,000s of years later in the new testement. It is commonly understood that the flood did not take place 2,300 years BC but was more like 4,300-4,500 BC. Not even gonna waste my time with that one.

Dr. Raymond V. Damadian was shunned and not accredited for his work. PERIOD! He even took out a paid ad explaning his injustice and letting the public know because he couldnt rely on the mainstream media, this is fact.

If a generation passes every 25 years then that would mean 4,000 generations in 100,000 years do the math! were talking ridiculous! also much more could be said havent got the space/time, look for yourself if you are truly looking for the truth!

The evidence to the finds of sodom and gomorah have been known, the five cities of the plains they are located near the dead sea, they have found zigurat stands ashen ruins in gomorah the cities are covered with ash and pellets that are called brimstone and are nearly sulfur the pellets found are 96 -98% pure sulfur and there is no geo thermal activity anywhere in the area and these pellets are burened on the out shell and imbedded in the area. They found building structures etc... the structures there are composed of calcium sulfate and calcium carbonate which are by products of sulfur and limestone burning. the evidence is remarkable, look it up! very interesting! They have pictures of the city structures and the pellets and ash and burnt sulfur and limestone. very remarkable. they even checked with archeologists around the world and nowhere has it ever been found a composite of such sulfur pellets as these.

skeletal reconstructuring has been found fraudilent among evolutionists, skelotal supposed finds and later found hoaxes by evolutionists, thats several examples there, the fraudulent drawings of embryos, Earnst Haeckeal, the countless propaganda lies about vestigial organs proposed to class rooms, that have been so many cant even list them. The very fact that ALL eveidence isnt shown is a hoax and fraudulent on the behalf of evolutionists. etc...etc...

Peopl lived healthier lives in the past it is a moral evidential fact. The prisons are fuller today, we are a culture of death, the country was less divided, integrity was held in higher regard Im mean it isnt even worth arguing it with you everyone with any common sense knows that the world was more moral in general, not saying there werent moments in time, but the results were evident, that were there is immorality there is danger, just go to any unethical place today and you will be at greater risk of some immoral action taken on you. well these evidences and consequences were at much lower statistics than they are today this is a commonsensical fact and known to any honest seeker. Look up the statistics and the articles. Any honest person would.

Natural disasters tend to harm the rightful and the wicked the same? Is that a factual statement or your oppinion. Im just saying look at disasterous places and look at there lifestyles it makes you wonder, thats all.


314 posted on 03/12/2007 9:25:30 PM PDT by Wakeup Sleeper
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To: Wakeup Sleeper
It is understood that the flood was around 4,300-4,500 years BC whenyou look at the geneology to Noah, there recorded in the bible and also recorded 1,000s of years later in the new testement. It is commonly understood that the flood did not take place 2,300 years BC but was more like 4,300-4,500 BC. Not even gonna waste my time with that one.

So, Bishop Usher's genealogy has been recalculated. By whom? And who commonly understands It?

It was written in an ad? Then it must be true!

If a generation passes every 25 years then that would mean 4,000 generations in 100,000 years do the math! were talking ridiculous! also much more could be said havent got the space/time, look for yourself if you are truly looking for the truth!

A generation of mayflies passes every four days - we should be drowned in mayflies! Yes, I do the math, all day long.

The evidence to the finds of sodom and gomorah have been known, the five cities of the plains they are located near the dead sea, they have found zigurat stands ashen ruins in gomorah the cities are covered with ash and pellets that are called brimstone and are nearly sulfur the pellets found are 96 -98% pure sulfur and there is no geo thermal activity anywhere in the area and these pellets are burened on the out shell and imbedded in the area. They found building structures etc... the structures there are composed of calcium sulfate and calcium carbonate which are by products of sulfur and limestone burning. the evidence is remarkable, look it up! very interesting! They have pictures of the city structures and the pellets and ash and burnt sulfur and limestone. very remarkable. they even checked with archeologists around the world and nowhere has it ever been found a composite of such sulfur pellets as these.

A link, just one tiny link, please!

skeletal reconstructuring has been found fraudilent among evolutionists, skelotal supposed finds and later found hoaxes by evolutionists, thats several examples there, the fraudulent drawings of embryos, Earnst Haeckeal, the countless propaganda lies about vestigial organs proposed to class rooms, that have been so many cant even list them. The very fact that ALL eveidence isnt shown is a hoax and fraudulent on the behalf of evolutionists. etc...etc...

Who is Earnst Haeckeal? Do you refer to Ernst Haeckel? No substance in this paragraph....

Peopl lived healthier lives in the past it is a moral evidential fact. The prisons are fuller today, we are a culture of death, the country was less divided, integrity was held in higher regard Im mean it isnt even worth arguing it with you everyone with any common sense knows that the world was more moral in general, not saying there werent moments in time, but the results were evident, that were there is immorality there is danger, just go to any unethical place today and you will be at greater risk of some immoral action taken on you. well these evidences and consequences were at much lower statistics than they are today this is a commonsensical fact and known to any honest seeker. Look up the statistics and the articles. Any honest person would.

Reminds me of Sokrates' complaints about the youth of his time....

Natural disasters tend to harm the rightful and the wicked the same? Is that a factual statement or your oppinion. Im just saying look at disasterous places and look at there lifestyles it makes you wonder, thats all.

That was just my opinion. But you should instigate a investigation to predict earthquakes by the number of brothels in a certain area! I smell heavy funding for this project!

315 posted on 03/13/2007 12:26:23 AM PDT by si tacuissem (sapere aude!)
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To: Wakeup Sleeper
"The evidence to the finds of sodom and gomorah have been known, the five cities of the plains they are located near the dead sea, they have found ...
They found ...
They have ...
they even checked ... "


Who is "they"?
"...look it up!" If you claim something you have to show some kind of evidence. "They" is not sufficient.

"Peopl lived healthier lives in the past it is a moral evidential fact. The prisons are fuller today, we are a culture of death, the country was less divided, integrity was held in higher regard"

The life time was much shorter in the past (Life expectancy). That to be said to "moral evidential fact".

The prisons are only fuller today in the US even though "crime and property crime have been declining since the 1990s according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics" (Prison population statistics).
What makes me always wonder. Why the US have a 7 times higher proportion of prisoners than any other developed country?

"...everyone with any common sense knows..."
A real "no true Scotsman"
316 posted on 03/13/2007 3:00:57 AM PDT by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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To: Wakeup Sleeper
It is understood that the flood was around 4,300-4,500 years BC whenyou look at the geneology to Noah, there recorded in the bible and also recorded 1,000s of years later in the new testement. It is commonly understood that the flood did not take place 2,300 years BC but was more like 4,300-4,500 BC. Not even gonna waste my time with that one.

You should. There is no agreement even among creationists on the date of the supposed flood:

2252 BC -- layevangelism.com

2304 BC -- Answers in Genesis (+/- 11 years).

2350 BC -- Morris, H. Biblical Creationism. Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books, 1993.

2370 BC -- TalkOrigins.com

2500 BC -- http://www.nwcreation.net/biblechrono.html

2978-3128 BC -- http://www.asa3.org/archive/ASA/199605/0162.html

3300 BC -- http://www.biblediscoveries.com/flood1.html

3537 BC -- Setterfield (1999)

But none of this matters, as science has found no evidence that a global flood actually occurred.
318 posted on 03/13/2007 7:00:23 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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