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To: Boxen
I try to delve into that discussion of competing theories and have to conclude the article is a bunch of superficial hooey. I am never impressed when scientists go beyond what they actually can determine, and start debating the philosophical reasons a theory should be accepted or rejected.

I thought intelligent design was a theory that certain designs were put in place at the beginning so that the universe tends toward certain results - life, intelligence, etc. Not that God specifically designed a panda's thumb, or the bamboo the panda eats.

This universe seems to tend toward life and awareness, two very great mysteries. The scientists say this is all just the result of random physical interactions, and I say hooey. A universe that can be aware of itself is more than random.

23 posted on 02/22/2007 7:09:05 PM PST by Williams
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To: Williams
I thought intelligent design was a theory that certain designs were put in place at the beginning so that the universe tends toward certain results - life, intelligence, etc. Not that God specifically designed a panda's thumb, or the bamboo the panda eats.

If you accept that God, or another designer, put a mechanism in place that took millions of years to reach existing forms of life, then you're subscribing to evolution. As Oscar Wilde said, you're just haggling over the price.

This universe seems to tend toward life and awareness, two very great mysteries. The scientists say this is all just the result of random physical interactions, and I say hooey. A universe that can be aware of itself is more than random.

That argument reminds me of Douglas Adams' comparison of man to a puddle in a pothole. The puddle is in awe of the miracle that someone or something created a pothole in exactly his size and shape, never pausing to consider that he might have been formed in such a way as to conform to the pothole.

The available evidence does not -- at least yet -- support the hypothesis that the universe tends toward life and awareness. Out of an unfathomable number of worlds in our universe, without even getting into the potential number of past, present and future universes, we know of precisely one that supports life and intelligence. A lone data point cannot define a pattern.

41 posted on 02/22/2007 7:35:51 PM PST by ReignOfError (`)
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To: Williams

The Supreme Architect designed and BUILT the universe, and yet ignorant men label any mystery as GOD, and look no further. Once there was the GOD named THOR that was responsible for lightning. Or it was GOD'S punishment for sinners.

Beginning with a SCIENTIST by the name of Ben Franklin(and others), lightning is now a well understood process of electrical discharge of the negatively charged earth/positively charged ionosphere - spherical capacitor(400,000 V at 50mi gap and 1800A average flow).

Basically we have then the "lestrade" mentality vs the "sherlock holmes" mentality. Those who GLOM onto quick and easy explanations(lazy intellects)and those who do the real detective work to solve mysteries. Which type would you have leading you out of the forest of ignorance?


237 posted on 03/01/2007 8:45:37 PM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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