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To: voltaires_zit; Wakeup Sleeper
Because men who wished to explain their existence and how they got here with naturalistic means that do not adhere to the physical and natural laws of this universe is not a closure of the subject but an attack on God. I would add that these means you believe in are faith based because they do not happen today and can not be tested, therefore are a faith based belief boarding on religion, maybe it is, Evolutionist do call it Mother Earth, and would save a tree at the cost of a child.

This is a case of man thinking he is smarter than God and therefore can make decisions of moral consequences.

The Bible has never been disproved or lost any validity due to those who adhere to mud puddle origins.

You may ask how do I know God is real, well it would be because men saw him and wrote about him, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John just to name a few. There were also those who did not follow the teaching of Jesus who saw him and the miracles and resurrection.

I would also have to say that nature speaks of organization that could not come from random acts of chance, symbiotic relations is one great example, how you can believe a flower decided to have insects move the pollen to propagate the species is beyond me.
112 posted on 02/23/2007 7:40:58 PM PST by Creationist ( Evolution=alternative to believing in God to justify their moral shortfalls and animal behavior)
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To: Creationist

Nothing about an old earth or evolution proves, tends to prove, or INTENDS to prove that there is no God. Nothing about an old earth or evolution is an attack on religion per se.

To frame the debate in those terms is ridiculous, stupid, and bordering (very narrowly bordering) on the insane.

To the extent that your holy books contradict observed reality, one of three things is true:

1) You do not understand your holy books.
2) Your holy books are wrong.
3) Both (1) and (2).

A prime example is those who (disregarding the sage advice of Augustine to inquire of astronomers about astronomy) insisted that Copernicus' theory on the motion of planets was "against scripture".

Don't follow their ridiculous example.


113 posted on 02/23/2007 7:56:10 PM PST by voltaires_zit
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To: Creationist

>>You may ask how do I know God is real, well it would be because men saw him and wrote about him, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John just to name a few. There were also those who did not follow the teaching of Jesus who saw him and the miracles and resurrection.

I would also have to say that nature speaks of organization that could not come from random acts of chance, symbiotic relations is one great example, how you can believe a flower decided to have insects move the pollen to propagate the species is beyond me.<<

For me, it was seeing the organization that helped me be ready but it was only through a personal experience with God that I believed.


119 posted on 02/23/2007 8:10:44 PM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: Creationist

I am on yourside creationist! Just to let you know!


132 posted on 02/23/2007 8:37:36 PM PST by Wakeup Sleeper
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