What is wrong with intelligent design?

EurekAlert! ^ | 22-Feb-2007 | Suzanne Wu

[Wakeup Sleeper]

It doesnt matter who they are its been found!

And it is commonsense that the world is a more dangerous place than it was in the past. The evidence is so overwhelming that when immorality goes up so does consequences from go up! Sexual immorality the rise in disease statistics go up broken homes, abuse,etc!... Drug use? muder death and despair go up! etc... etc...etc.... who do you think you are kidding? look at the old west, where law was scarce, why do you think people carried guns on there sides, in those places, they were dangerous!!!!!! duh!!!! Why do you think africa and other sexualy immoral areas are ridden with aids and other diseases!!!! It not even worth the argument with you!!!! and why do you guys keep re writting everything a person posts that doesnt agree with you, do think you are belittling someone this way, "oh look at what you have wrote, now let me show you how you are in error", you arent fooling anyone!!!!! anything ive posted that people can see for themselves, or they can fall for your propaganda, but a wise person would check it out, But you arent honest yourselves, because if you wee realy trying to be SCIENTISTS you would consider all the evidence!

[Coyoteman]

And it is commonsense that the world is a more dangerous place than it was in the past. The evidence is so overwhelming that when immorality goes up so does consequences from go up! Sexual immorality the rise in disease statistics go up broken homes, abuse,etc!... Drug use? muder death and despair go up! etc... etc...etc.... who do you think you are kidding? look at the old west, where law was scarce, why do you think people carried guns on there sides, in those places, they were dangerous!!!!!! duh!!!! Why do you think africa and other sexualy immoral areas are ridden with aids and other diseases!!!! It not even worth the argument with you!!!! and why do you guys keep re writting everything a person posts that doesnt agree with you, do think you are belittling someone this way, "oh look at what you have wrote, now let me show you how you are in error", you arent fooling anyone!!!!! anything ive posted that people can see for themselves, or they can fall for your propaganda, but a wise person would check it out, But you arent honest yourselves, because if you wee realy trying to be SCIENTISTS you would consider all the evidence!

Have you shared your great wisdom with the Keepers Of Odd Knowledge Society? I'm sure they would be interested.

[Wakeup Sleeper]

I have made a large list of scientific evidence to a global flood even before this list, that is understood by all of science, and you have not been able to refute any of it. nor can you. so dont even try because ive heard all the adhock junk before from others before you and heard the no evidence hypotheticals from evolutionists. Theres a big difference from real evidence and scientific logic as opposed hypothetical adhock stories, " o you creation scientists say this and you have evidence? well hears my NO EVIDENCE hypothetical story Ill tell you to explain it away. Hypotheticals with no evidence whatsoever from evolutionists.

fossils have usualy to be buried rapidly

mass graves of fossils are usualy what is found

coal that is millions of years old according to the evo hype/propaganda there shouldnt be any c 14 in it but guess what there is. should have decayed to nitrogen long ago. they have the roughly same percentages in them no matter what layer .26 pmc from eocine .21 from the cretaceous .27 from the pennsylvanian there is little variance whatsoever in the levels of c 14 in the geological record

Planation surfaces are abundant on all continents, planation surfaces are not being formed today. Erosion does not explain planantion so dont go there. global flooding explains this very well.

marine fossils in the mountains

clearly visible sediments on everest

whale fossils found high above sea levels

many ancient peoples wrote of a global flood in which eight people survived the odds of this being a coincodence is quite a stretch.

If you study population growths it is consistant to the population today from arond 4300-4500 years ago.

glaciers and glacier erosion

catastrophic plate tectonics
any lurkers out there as the evolutionists like to call you, well you can all look it up for yourselves, if you are honest with wanting to know the truth look at ALL of the evidence WILLINGLY!!!!


huge sandstones deposits and on and on and on and on!!!!

[Coyoteman]

See my post #322.

[Wakeup Sleeper]

listen friend statistics show tremendous rises in everthing wretched to normal living in this era than in the a more consistantly moral past. This is fact!!!! this is a no argument disscussion, it is absolute fact. There isnt an inner city today that is the way it use to be, disease is on the rise, etc...etc...violent crime, phsycological disorders, disfunctional family life, etc...etc...quit kidding yourself!!!!

[dread78645]

... archeaologists and historians who have studied and scholars agree that the over all date is around 4300-4500 BC, there is always gonna be someone with some adhock to throw in there but the best evidence is and mostly regarded date is 4300 -4500 BC.

You're claiming the best date is 500 years to 300 years (4500-4300) before Adam ....

So when did Noah become Adam's G..grandfather ?

[Wakeup Sleeper]

Keepers of odd knowledge? thats dumb! Have you checked your lies at the door because,because i know you arent looking for truth, but instead, excuses! so look with honesty and not make excuses! Then you would at the least have creditability as someone who was searching that at least would be more noble!

[Wakeup Sleeper]

what are you talking about? Adam could have been alive and died before the event of even up to when noah was working on the ark which in the bible showed it was 120 years I believe. Adam lived 9 hundred something years.

[Coyoteman]

Keepers of odd knowledge? thats dumb!

No. I'm serious.

I really think you should share your vast learning with the Keepers Of Odd Knowledge Society!

[Wakeup Sleeper]

Like I said thats dumb! not even funny, sorry! go get out your pocket protector and think of another, cause that dont cut it. Your just a stooge coyoteman of the higherarchy of evolutionists propagandists. Peace!

[andysandmikesmom]

I have seen the acronym of KOOKS used in a couple of different ways, and really did not know what it meant..would your ' Keepers of Odd Knowledge Society' be one of those ways?

[Coyoteman]

I have seen the acronym of KOOKS used in a couple of different ways, and really did not know what it meant..would your ' Keepers of Odd Knowledge Society' be one of those ways?

You are sharp tonight! ;-)

[andysandmikesmom]

Thanks...

[dread78645]

what are you talking about? Adam could have been alive and died before the event of even up to when noah was working on the ark which in the bible showed it was 120 years I believe. Adam lived 9 hundred something years.

Your innumeracy?

Archbishop Ussher calculated the date of creation as October 22, 4004 BC based on the genealogies of Genesis.

Both of your dates, 4500 BC and 4300 BC are before the world was created!

For Coyoteman:
Another Flood Estimate: 2522 BC -- Dr. Gerhard Hasel Professor of Old Testament and Biblical Theology at Andrews University.

[si tacuissem]

The flood is mostly regarded as being around 4300-4500 BC dont care what other sites you put up there if it is looked at biblicaly and archeaologists and historians who have studied and scholars agree that the over all date is around 4300-4500 BC, there is always gonna be someone with some adhock to throw in there but the best evidence is and mostly regarded date is 4300 -4500 BC

Who are those who "mostly regard" the flood as being around 4300-4500 BC. The voices in your head? Or can you give some links?

[MHalblaub]

"It doesnt matter who they are its been found!"

"We found no WMD in Iraq!" said
- Saddam Hussein.
- Hans Blix.
- Georg W. Bush.


"And it is commonsense that the world is a more dangerous place than it was in the past."

You look to much TV my friend. The crime rate is going down. You only see more crimes on TV because sex and crime sells.

"Sexual immorality the rise in disease statistics go up broken homes, abuse,etc!"

I prefer to live today. In the 19th century every small village got its bordel.

"Drug use? muder death and despair go up! etc..."

Only on TV. Look at the federal statistics.

"Why do you think africa and other sexualy immoral areas are ridden with aids and other diseases!"

Well, I think Western Europe is more sexual amoral than Africa. But in Western Europe the use of condoms is at a very high rate. You can see at every third billboard a call to use condoms.

"and why do you guys keep re writting everything a person posts that doesnt agree with you"

I even write to persons I agree with but where I question their claims. I hate false logic. I'm an Advocatus Diaboli.

"But you arent honest yourselves, because if you wee realy trying to be SCIENTISTS you would consider all the evidence!"

- 'The gun is owned by you!'
- 'Yes!'
- 'We found traces of you at crime scene!'
- 'Yes! But let me explain...'
- 'You debt the victim a lot of money! This is your motive!'
- 'Well, I was in prison on that day.'

Sometimes one evidence is enough.

"It not even worth the argument with you!!!!"

You never tried too.

[MHalblaub]

Logic and definitions:

"fossils have usualy to be buried rapidly"

On what timescale? Seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months or years?

"mass graves of fossils are usualy what is found"

What is your definition of "mass"? More than one, a dozen, a ...? Graves for animals?

"coal that is millions of years old according to the evo hype/propaganda there shouldnt be any c 14 in it but guess what there is."

Cite your sources. I won't guess there they are. And to get carbon-14 you only need a neutron source. There are natural ones.

"Planation surfaces are abundant on all continents, planation surfaces are not being formed today. Erosion does not explain planantion so dont go there. global flooding explains this very well."

You think because A is wrong B has to be right? What about C? C like glaciers? But I even doubt you can explain why A should be wrong, do you?

"marine fossils in the mountains" ... "whale fossils found high above sea levels"

Same logical error as mentioned above.

"many ancient peoples wrote of a global flood in which eight people survived the odds of this being a coincodence is quite a stretch."

Name one not linked to the ancient near east.

"If you study population growths it is consistant to the population today from arond 4300-4500 years ago."

What do you want to say?

"if you are honest with wanting to know the truth look at ALL of the evidence WILLINGLY!!!! "

Science: sine ira et studio (Lat.: Without anger and eagerness)


You are eager to proof a global flood.

[Wakeup Sleeper]

Not eager to prove it, its that the evidence as well as many other subject matters gives great evidence and credibility to the bible. And I could give you a list of thousands of scientists and historians and archeaologists who use to be eager in disproving the bible and later changed their minds because of what? Because of the evidence that so overwhelmingly showed them different to their eagerness of disproval of the bible, and they are well learned with many years of experience and known and very credible professionals, And they denounce evolution something they once was bafooned into being told was true, but they no longer see it that way, because there agenda isnt the eagerness to discredit the bible like yours but they have decided to look at all the evidence and when they did they found a whole lot more that isnt told. Peace.

[Wakeup Sleeper]

Thats funny cause even those while clinton was in office and the intelligence and brittish and other intelligence all said that there were WMDs. And for you humanitarians who are big hypocrites what was being done against the Iraqi people alone over in Iraq alone was justification for going there. And besides you should ask the same questions you are trying to bring to me, but you are unwilling because you are dishonest, if you are not looking for the truth then whats your point of being a scientist?

[Wakeup Sleeper]

You are a great kidder, you dont fool anyone! look up the crime rates etc... 20 30 40 50 years ago and compare them to today and quit kidding yourself! At least coyoteman comes back with something discussible.