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To: bcsco
You're going to lay into me with personal attacks and imprecations against my honesty, as you did from your very first post, no matter what I do or say. If I'm happy for my co-religionists, you'll call it "smarmy". If I quote from the Catholic Encyclopedia as regards Calvin, you'll blame me for the nasty things that the Catholics say about Luther.

I have not engaged in such personal attacks against you.

The fact is, you are angry with me for (correctly!) pointing out that the Iraqi Government is riddled with terrorists, and so in response, you've decided to make it personal.

Well, I'm going to say two things to that:

I am happy to debate the issues. You insist on making it personal -- and UnChristian, at that.

497 posted on 02/21/2007 7:11:41 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
"I am happy to debate the issues. You insist on making it personal -- and UnChristian, at that.

No, you haven't debated the issues. When someone posts a comment asking for information to back up your contentions, all you do is re-post your contentions. You don't back them up. You also have (according to you) taken quotes from 'The Catholic Encyclopedia'; without disclaimer to their attack on Luther. I consider THAT a personal attack on your part. Perhaps unintentionally, perhaps not. I cannot read you mind so I don't know what is true. But the fact remains: Your home page gives no indication that you do not agree with those words. How 'Christian' is that (you opened this door)?

Don't bring Jesus into this discussion on Ron Paul. This is a political discussion; not a religious one. We both know (or should) that while our religious beliefs frame our political sense, they include the admonishment "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s”. It is my belief that support on the WoT falls well within this admonishment from Christ. I can be a true Christian yet support a war that defends our nation against assault and destruction. Do not EVER question my religious beliefs. You have not the authority nor knowledge to do so. Only God may do so. Or are you putting yourself in His place? You give the appearance of that from your stated 'beliefs' in what he would do politically.

My 'abuse' as you call it has been an attempt to get valid information on your political beliefs in place of repeated obfuscation on your part, and what I consider a valid response to your rantings about Calvinism on your home page; rantings that appear to attack Lutheranism. You claim they are not your statements, but the way they are constructed and delivered leave them quite open to interpretation. And my interpretation is as valid as any. It is you who have invited criticism on both levels through what you have written. If you don't want further criticism on your home page, then clean it up and make your personal views clear.

Now, it's time to end this discourse. It has been brought into the gutter, and I don't believe I am responsible for that because I have, all along, been reacting to you (even in my first post, #148). Let's end this now before it gets any worse. Any further discourse will show who the UnChristian one truly is.

Goodbye.

507 posted on 02/21/2007 7:45:04 AM PST by bcsco
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