[oldenuff2no]

Ruby ridge happened because the barrel on a shotgun was one eighth inch too short! The feds turned that into a firing squad killing keds and women. I believe the minimum length of a shotgun barrel is 18" and that's fed law.
You folks need to watch what you say and who you are talking to. In here youare talking to the world.

[diogenes ghost]

Mossberg 500's come with 18.5" and 20" barrells, in addition to longer hunting choices. They are factory produced, perfectly legal, and popular as hell. Your rant does not enlighten the poster, nor anyone wishing accurate information about a legal product. Go find another boogy-man to scare folks with.

[sig226]

FYI - Randy Weaver was tricked by the informants using the complexity of the law you are attempting to cite. A shotgun must have barrels of at least 18" length, and an overall length of 26". In a pump gun, the overall length minimum is rarely a problem. The action of the gun is long, often eight inches or close enough that the addition of any grip will exceed the 26" requirement. Weaver made a pistol grip shotgun from a side by side. He made sure the barrels were 18", but he didn't know about the overall length minimum. When he cut the stock to make the pistol grip, the gun was less than 26" overall length.

This is not a short barreled shotgun. An SBS is intended to be fired from the shoulder. A shotgun with short barrels and a pistol grip, like the one in post 5, is classed as 'Any Other Weapon,' AOW.

Since you are doing gunsmith work, I'll bet you also did not know that it is illegal for an FFL dealer to attach a pistol grip to a shotgun for a person under the age of 21, regardless of the overall length. The reason is that this gun is not intended to be fired from the shoulder. To be classed as a long gun, legal for sale to persons under the age of 21, the gun must be intended to be fired from the shoulder.

In an amusing example of stupid federal bureaucracy, you can legally sell the gun to an 18 year old, and you can legally sell the pistol grip to an 18 year old at the same time, as long as the gun has a shoulder stock affixed to it. The 18 year old can go in the parking lot and legally attach the pistol grip. You just can't sell it unless the shoulder stock is on the gun. This is addressed in the yellow book from the BATFE.

[Atlas Sneezed]

Ruby ridge happened because the barrel on a shotgun was one eighth inch too short!

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I recall it was actually the stock that was cut a little too short.

[x1stcav]

Uh, what are you talking about?

If you're talking about barrell length, you are pobably right.

I'm talking about shell length in an attempt to allow the poster to cut down on apparent recoil as the old 23/4's were loaded a little lighter and put out a little less shot.

Of course, if you are being facetious, I'll allow you that.

And despite your admonition, no, I don't have to watch what I say or who I say it to.