Posted on 02/18/2007 9:42:28 AM PST by faq
Yawn -- so what else is new.
It's not an automatic weapon.
Though automatic weapons, aka machine guns, are perfectly legal. Get a permit, buy one. Federally, ten or so states ban them.
14 round magazine, sounds ominous, but you are in more danger from someone carrying a wheelgun who can place 5 or 6 shots.
Aliens purchasing firearms. While I recognize they will be able to purchase them illegally, that's just plain stupid. I'd support restricting firearms ownership for non-citizens for a period of years, one, five, whatever, come up with a bill.
But Rudy didn't propose that, he didn't focus on aliens, he focused on gunowners. Legal gunowners, not illegals.
I wanted to make sure you saw this and could send it around to your NY friends, areafiftyone.
"Look at this letter we found on the body. Hurry up and send it to this FAX number in Gaza."
virgins
You will see at the link that he very much proposed reasonable measures and not a ban on everyone.
In my opinion the criticism of Florida is very valid.
In his own words.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/rwg/html/97a/me970302.html
Unrestricted gun purchase is an impossibility in the practical World in which we live. Sad but true.
"...let the adults...", "Rhino-rudy", "BLUEST-of-BLUE left-wing inner-city", "LIBERAL DEMOCRAT or LIBERAL INDEPENDENT"....
what a load of rubbish...
I, for one, will keep my powder dry and wait to decide whom I will support. The scorched-earth, all or nothing ideologues, in their zeal to destroy every candidate without a pristine record on gun control and abortion, will ensure a Democrat Congress and a Democrat in the WH.
That should make them absolutely ecstatic...they can go back to whining and complaining about all things societal while ignoring the enemies who are bent on destroying our great nation.
Not to mention that these "adults" will have, unwittingly, done far more to advance the Left's agenda, than the Left is capable of doing themselves.
Only took 6 posts to turn this into an anti-Rudy thread. Nice work.
I don't support Rudy enough to argue for him, nor am I anti-Rudy enough to argue against him. But this is getting ridiculous.
Silly me for expecting more from FReepers.
"Three may keep a Secret, if two of them are dead." - Benjamin Franklin
Who are "the adults"? YOU?
ROFL!
And thanks in part to our stricter gun control laws, crime is down dramatically in New York City. Shootings are down over 50 percent. Murder is down over 50 percent. But the fact is that 90 percent of the guns we take out of the hands of criminals in New York City come from out of the State of New York.
Living near Chicago, which did then has now stricter gun control laws than New York along with the accompanying higher murder rate, I don't buy it. He aggressively enforced the laws, which he deserves credit for. And of course I don't attribute the murder rate in Chicago to stricter laws. Though I think it argues in favor of law abiding citizens having the ability to protect themselves.
I'm OK with Rudy's proposal with corrections.
To purchase a gun in the State of New York you have to give your full name, your date of birth, your residence, your occupation . You have to prove that you're a United States citizen, you have to show you are of good character, competency and integrity. And you have to demonstrate a real need for the weapon.
Good grief, I don't want Rudy or Hillary or Hunter or McCain or anyone else ruling on my ability to own a firearm based on thier judgement of my good character, competency, or "real" need.
If that's his postition, then he needs to propose a 28th amendment.
This is a loser for Rudy, even Hillay's husband knows that. I doubt he'll be the one to bring it up during the campaign.
"Look at this letter we found on the body. We found his next-of-kin in Gaza, let's send it to them along with a list of his personal effects. We need to contact them anyway, and if we behave in a friendly way, we may learn something."
"good character, competency and integrity"
Rules out those with a criminal record. Rules out the mentally challenged and the underage. Rules out suspected terrorists.
All legal words of art.
Boilerplate for those getting everything from a license to practice law to a license to cut hair.
The entire Constitution would give the right to own an auto and do with it what you will.
There is a Constitutional prohibition against unreasonable searches and the idea that the Government of the United States could force innocent citizens wishing to travel intrastate to take off their shoes for inspection would be absurd to the Founders.
Yet we must live in the real World.
There is not one single dem running for president who should be allowed anywhere near the White House.
All of this trashing of Republican candidates that some are interested in or looking at is ridiculous...not to mention tiresome.
The overall quality of people on our side is vastly superior to theirs and I intend to keep that in mind.
And then they'll blame it on white American men (or Jooooos), forcing them to do it, because there was no other alternative.
Then that's what a candidate has to say. Criminal record, insane (I've occasionally posted on the lunacy of revoking gun rights for people who enter drug/alcohol rehab).
Illinois bars concealed carry. Chicago bars handguns. Through the art of legislation, law sounds too legal, alderman can not only own handguns, but carry them concealed. Something to do with upholding peace.
Two shockers.
I'm told concealed carry permits are difficult to obtain in San Francisco. But when there's a need, along with good character, competency and integrity, of all people to carry a concealed weapon.
"Because less than twenty years ago I was the target of a terrorist group...I know the sense of helplessness that people feel. I know the urge to arm yourself because that's what I did. I was trained in firearms...I carried a concealed weapon. I made the determination that if somebody was going to try to take me out, I was going to take them with me."
Senator Dianne Feinstein
Not certain, but I believe she's referencing the Harvey Milk act of terrorism.
Barbara Boxer has a concealed carry permit. I believe her husband was hospitalized in a "bad" neighborhood once. She needed it and kept it.
Needless to say, I don't have the "good character, competency and integrity" of Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein or a Chicago alderman.
Rudy has some explaining to do on this and other social issues to get my support. Though i admit it may not matter. Leadership skills, he's the best in the field thus far.
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
-- Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanlysis (1952)
Not as absurd as taking my cowboy hat off to get through airport security. It's enough to make me wear a burka on top.
That sums it up nicely.
Not to be nit picky, but I think the ratio is WAAAAAAY out of whack.
To say that you couldn't trust 1/10th the words that 1/10th of these people say, would still be too much credit for their truth telling.
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