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Microsoft Vista Question

Posted on 02/18/2007 8:50:31 AM PST by proudofthesouth

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To: Echo Talon

By all means use what security the router has to the max. You never know who is listening in. Strong passwords are a must. When you don't know what the boxes are for, check them all -- LOL. Most users are not very knowledgeable when it comes to networking.

I consult with a few local companies, so I just stop at what the customer needs.

I wish the race would start, it's cold out and need something to get revved about.


81 posted on 02/18/2007 12:20:49 PM PST by Tarpon
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To: Kirkwood

I had a supervisor from Dell phone me last week when they tried to get me to buy a new one from them.

I was told that ALL of their new systems come with Vista.


82 posted on 02/18/2007 12:54:23 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: Poser

So if I buy a router do I still need a firewall? Thx.


83 posted on 02/18/2007 12:55:45 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: TommyDale
I agree. I suggest Zonealarm and AVG for any systems I build though I am experimenting with McAfee in both areas right now.

For some reason Zonealarm keeps locking my son's computer. I don't know if Zonealarm isn't compatible with a Soyo motherboard but it's been driving me crazy so I changed switched to McAfee to see if it makes a difference.

84 posted on 02/18/2007 12:57:08 PM PST by pctech
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To: proudofthesouth
I don't know about you or your PC Security habits but I would definitely by another firewall program just as a precaution. Espechially with all of the Security Issues microsofts operating systems have. I Recommend Zone Alarm.
85 posted on 02/18/2007 1:01:07 PM PST by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: TommyDale
Some guys in my Cisco class suggest buying a Linksys router and putting a Linux IOS on it to give it more functionality. Basically they say I can turn a $60 router into a $600 router.

Anyone know anything about this?

86 posted on 02/18/2007 1:01:18 PM PST by pctech
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To: proudofthesouth
Well I previously purchased a Dell online and got truly screwed. I'm so sick of having computer problems I could SCREAM! I've been a permanent resident of Dell Hell for almost a year and a half and I'm so happy to finally be set free!

My mistake, when I gave Newegg and Amazon as example, I should have pointed out that I was NOT suggesting Dell. I've had to repair a friend's Dell where the part that Dell used was obviously a cheap POS, as you could find reports of it failing a year and a month after the system was bought, like clockwork. And of course Dell's systems are just proprietary enough to make replacing the part a minor PIA.

Throw in the of hoops they make paying customers jump through to get a Windows free system sold to them, and yeah, I steer people away from Dell as a matter of course.

87 posted on 02/18/2007 1:02:48 PM PST by MichiganMan (Last year, this consumer spent over $150 on native Linux games. Who wants my business next year?)
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To: mkjessup

I've heard that Barracade puts out some great routers / firewalls. Pricey though. Has that been your experience?


88 posted on 02/18/2007 1:03:19 PM PST by pctech
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To: puppypusher

I used Zone Alarm with XP and it was great. Problem with Zone Alarm is that it isn't yet compatible with Vista.


89 posted on 02/18/2007 1:04:16 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: Eagles Talon IV
I agree, I have a 5 year old Dell and have not had a single hardware related problem.

As the happy owner of two hand-me-down Dells from my current company (server and desktop) I'm impressed with their construction and durability. My last two employers have run all Dell (~100 PC) networks, and reliability hasn't been a problem. Laptops, servers and desktops.

90 posted on 02/18/2007 1:07:15 PM PST by jimt
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To: proudofthesouth
Well if Zone alarm is Not compatible yet then I would go with the Built in Fire-Wall but Not for long.Criminals are already working on cracking the Vista Firewall so change it as soon as you find a Vista compatible version.
91 posted on 02/18/2007 1:10:03 PM PST by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: proudofthesouth

Get a Mac. No spyware. No viruses. No hacks. No restarts. And you can still run Windows if you really need to, on Mac.

The days of having to choose are over. The new Mac's are cheaper and more powerful than any comparable HPs or Dells.

Anyone buying 20th century hardware or OS now days is just a masochist.


92 posted on 02/18/2007 1:11:02 PM PST by Waywardson (Carry on! Nothing equals the splendor!)
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To: Waywardson
The new Mac's are cheaper and more powerful than any comparable HPs or Dells.

HAHAHAHA! whatever.

94 posted on 02/18/2007 1:15:32 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: raybbr

Those are the lower end. I would check at cnet to see the reviews before buying it. It looks a lot like the one we have.


95 posted on 02/18/2007 1:16:16 PM PST by Porterville (Bullies love Peace and the Peaceful fight Wars.)
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To: jimt
BTW, I should have mentioned BOTH the hand-me-downs are approaching 10 years old and ran in always-on environments. The desktop ran in a factory environment.

I blew out the clouds of accumulated dust with an airhose, maxxed out the memory, added a DVD burner and WD 80 gig hard drive plus several miscellaneous PCI expansion boards, and haven't looked back.

The server got its memory maxxed out and has 3 "factory refurbished" 36 gig SCSI drives on the way.

But then I'm an oddball who runs DOS, 95, NT Workstation, NT Server, 98 and 2000 on my assortment of machines. I hated the XP installation on my wife's laptop, and would have a hard time considering an OS that needs 512 MB just to kick over. No Vista for me.

Down with bloatware !

96 posted on 02/18/2007 1:17:25 PM PST by jimt
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To: proudofthesouth

"I was told that ALL of their new systems come with Vista."

Nope. You are probably looking only at the low end products they have. I only buy their high end products which are designed for commercial use and not home users. If you go to their web page you can find models that give you options on what OS you want. You can also buy a box without an OS, but then you have to search for XP on your own.


97 posted on 02/18/2007 1:27:28 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: proudofthesouth
So if I buy a router do I still need a firewall? Thx.

Where a software firewall comes in handy is policing which apps on your system are getting out on the net. A hardware firewall in a router only stops unsolicited connections in. Application control is definitely not foolproof, there are some well recognized ways to defeat such a system, but as a layer of defense, its a reasonably justifiable use of resources.

A hardware FW is almost certainly going to be more secure than your software FW, and it keeps the script-kiddies' ever-present probes at bay without taking up any of your CPU cycles, whereas a good software FW like Zone Alarm watches your side of the net for stuff leaving your system. They each have their advantages, and there's little downside in using them both.

98 posted on 02/18/2007 1:28:29 PM PST by MichiganMan (Last year, this consumer spent over $150 on native Linux games. Who wants my business next year?)
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To: Porterville
Those are the lower end. I would check at cnet to see the reviews before buying it. It looks a lot like the one we have.

I am just looking for something to surf and word process. Don't need a screamer. What do you think of the Acers?

99 posted on 02/18/2007 1:28:56 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: proudofthesouth

For example...
http://www.dell.com/content/products/results.aspx/workstations?~ck=anav&c=us&l=en&s=biz&cs=555&a=23~0~86&navla=23~0~86


100 posted on 02/18/2007 1:30:26 PM PST by Kirkwood
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