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This is insanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't fathom that any conservative could possible wish this, yet I have seen this quite a few times and here it is again.

Even though the conservatives can see the damage the Democrats do to the country, there are some that want to see the country destroyed in the totally insane belief that once its destroyed, people will start to appreciate conservatives. Well, this approach is no different from the views of the Dems, who don't care about the troops, or the country, just so they capture and keep power.

1 posted on 02/17/2007 9:22:04 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
This sort of ILLOGIC comes consistently from the third party/protectionist types. )Keyes, Tancredo, Paul etc,,,)

They are only a small fragmented group and have little impact. Still, it's difficult to understand how or why they would even consider such a thing.

242 posted on 02/18/2007 10:14:10 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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Democrats need to be slapped out of their anti-Bush hysteria by real life

Unfortunately for our country we are not united as a people on the issue of Islamic terrorism and we really need more than a paper thin margin to defeat this enemy IMHO--our young people who get to vote have been indoctrinated in campuses across the country for years with the notion that the US is the world's bully--that our founding fathers destroyed indigenous people who were living peacefully off the land--that they don't need God--this crazy mixture allows them to see the Islamofascists as indigenous people with a simple faith being bullied by angry and greedy white men--of course they're off their rockers--but the media is complicit in supporting their world view--if a Democrat does win in 2008 I have to believe that we as a country will survive their term in office. Believe me living less than 2 miles from Ground Zero scares me because I fear another attack on our soil. But I have believed that only an even more devastating attck than 9/11 would wake up the liberals to the threat and, even then, some would claim that the Republicans brought it down on us. Look at Israel--the endless assaults by the Arabs next door never brings the media around to taking sides--they show wailing Palestinians but never dead and mutilated Jewish children torn to shreds by rat poison-laced screws and bolts. Such evil never gets reported in the MSM.

And don't get me started on soccer moms and Oprah Winfrey who live off the fat of the land but never bother to really educate themselves to reality beyond 'unsightly belly bulge' concerns and ways to raise their self esteem. We have become a nation of pampered brats--young and old--and we'd better learn to protect ourselves.

243 posted on 02/18/2007 10:15:39 AM PST by foreshadowed at waco
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Always wondered when NRO would finally come out of the closet. Their sham "Conservatism" has been rather tread-bear for years.

Like Bill Bennett, Laura Ingrham, Fox News. The Washington Times et al, they have simply become part of the Washington DC Political Media Noise machine who happens to hit upon the idea of marketing themselves as being "Conservative".

Truth is they just sell the same product as the rest of the Dinosaur Media in a different package
247 posted on 02/18/2007 10:49:14 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( If they say "speaking truth to power,"-they haven't had a l thought since the Beatles broke up)
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To: gcruse

Just drop the facade Democrat cheerleader and waddle on over and ask your new Democrat Congress what they are going to do about the $1.2 Billion the Republicans gave you for your fence.


You worked as hard as you could to help them win by spending all your time shooting your own side in the back for the last two years so now go ask them what they are going to do for you Know Nothings and your 1 issue.

Want to help the Conservatives for 2008? GO do to the Democrats what you spent the last two years doing to us.


251 posted on 02/18/2007 11:09:58 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( If they say "speaking truth to power,"-they haven't had a l thought since the Beatles broke up)
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This is astonishing.

Does he have any qualifications or credentials other than his mother's connections?


254 posted on 02/18/2007 11:14:57 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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I am guilty on these very pages of musing we should hand over the reins, if for no other reason than to be able to spread the blame.


257 posted on 02/18/2007 11:24:37 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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Try again. This time actually try reading and responding to the post instead of merely screaming your pre Programed Talking points Democrat Cheerleader.

That strike ONE for you.
259 posted on 02/18/2007 11:31:47 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( If they say "speaking truth to power,"-they haven't had a l thought since the Beatles broke up)
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Well that is strike two.

Last chance. Actually post a fact based rational response instead of mindlessly reposting your Democrat Cheer leading nonsense based on nothing but your own emotional whimsy. A FACTUAL response to the point, NOT more mindless regurgitation of the usual Democrat Cheer leading from you.
261 posted on 02/18/2007 11:37:59 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( If they say "speaking truth to power,"-they haven't had a l thought since the Beatles broke up)
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But what happens when a President Clinton or Obama has a 9/11 — or worse — on her or his watch?

Most liberals are "pacifists", they won't fight no matter what.

Hillary could be beheaded by Muslims on the Senate floor at high noon on live TV, and people like Pelosi and the Nancy boys would look for a peaceful solution.

They are Dhimmi, to their core.

273 posted on 02/18/2007 3:08:19 PM PST by oldbrowser (First, Do No Harm.)
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To: FairOpinion; Spiff

I don't even think Goldberg backs this notion that 'it would be better if a Rat won.' No 'true conservative' believes that. But this chicken little horseshit about how 'true conservatives' are bringing the party and country to its knees ain't flying. It was not a debacle because of 'true conservatives'' failure to defend America's borders. It was not a debacle because 'true conservatives' grew the federal budget, laden with pork, every year. It was not a debacle because 'true conservatives'' first choices for the Supreme Court's openings were opinionless judicial bureaucrats and cronies. It was not a debacle because 'true conservatives' tried to sell American ports into Arab control. The 2006 election was not a debacle because it was 'true conservatives' who fought a political and limited war, tying the hands of our soldiers tighter every time some penny ante 'human rights' violation erupted.

Perhaps it is that 'true conservatives' don't trust compassionate conservative RINOism any more, and 'true conservatives' sensibly won't vote for it. Maybe 'true conservatives' are not buying that they must vote for RINOs to save America any more, because when RINOs get in, any constitutional principles are expendable, just as they would be to Rats. So place the blame where it lies--if the logical result of the GOP nominating a RINO is that the GOP will lose its 'true conservative' base during the general election, the Rats will win, and the country will go down the tubes otherwise, perhaps the GOP should consider nominating 'true conservatives.'

It certainly seems that the GOP is going out of its way to scare them or browbeat them into voting for RINOs instead of choosing that much easier option. I wonder if maybe that means someone besides 'true conservatives' will be at fault if there is another debacle in 2008, or if it will continue to be the 'true conservatives'' fault whenever RINOs fail.


280 posted on 02/18/2007 5:12:53 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (When personal character isn't relevant to voters or party leaders, Foley happens.)
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That Democrat would be Hillary. She will destroy this country.


286 posted on 02/18/2007 9:02:13 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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