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Jonah Goldberg: Inherit the Wind. What if it takes a Democrat? (Maybe a Democrat should win)
National Review ^ | Feb. 16, 2007 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 02/17/2007 9:22:00 PM PST by FairOpinion

This wisp of a notion is simply this: Maybe a Democrat should win in 2008.

Personally, I don’t believe in this poltergeist, at least not yet. But every now and then, I must confess, I do shiver from its touch.

The idea goes something like this: If you believe that the war on terror is real — really real — then you think it is inevitable that more and bloodier conflicts with radical Islam are on the way, regardless of who is in the White House. If the clash of civilizations is afoot, then the issues separating Democrats and Republicans are as pressing as whether the captain of the Titanic is going to have fish or chicken for dinner. There’s a showdown coming. Period. Full stop. My task isn’t to convince you that this view is correct (though I basically believe it is), but merely that it is honestly and firmly held by many on the right and by a comparative handful on the left.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: conservatives; democrats; electionpresident; elections; goldberg; iraq; jonahgoldberg; wot
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To: FairOpinion

I guess Jonah ran out of good ideas.

Bill Clinton did give us the first house and senate in a LONG time, but look what they did with it, they went on the defensive instead of showing they had a pair.

They LIKE being the minority, I don't know why.

We're SO close to rebuilding the Supreme Court and let's not forget the other courts that are poisoned as well, even if you're a social conservative you NEED to vote for the "R" even if it Rudy, etc., just for the JUDGES.

The JUDGES have more to say about the social issues than any politician, unfortunately.

There are times you have to be pragmatic, considering the predictable Islamic response to a Hillary Presidency, I say 2008 is THE time, even if it's your ONLY time, to be pragmatic. I'll even vote for (shudder) McCain, who I despise if it stops another Clinton Presidency.


61 posted on 02/17/2007 10:32:05 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: politicalwit
"A strong effort to retake the House or Senate or both will be the best offense the republicans can take."

Sorry, can't agree with you there, mate. We're setting our sights to win the war on all fronts.

62 posted on 02/17/2007 10:36:19 PM PST by Jim Robinson (If the party runs a social liberal for president it's a kick in the teeth to its conservative base.)
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To: CyberAnt
WE WILL HAVE MORE THAN ONE 9/11 (OR WORSE) IN 2008 OR 2009. It's practically a given!

Or not. Probably we'll have "peace". Not the kind of 'peace' we want, though: The Dims may simply give whatever the Islamofacists ask and EU demands.

63 posted on 02/17/2007 10:38:14 PM PST by paudio (WoT is more important than War on Gay Marriage!)
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To: Jim Robinson

"as long as he's fully qualified and marketable. Once we zero in on the candidate who can pull together the coalition and is capable enough to slay the beast, the money and support will roll in. "


I totally and completely agree with your entire post. Well said!

My point is only, that since the Dems are already running and getting a lot of publicity, and I think we need to identify an actual person and that person needs to demonstrate that he has the capability as you describe, in short order.


64 posted on 02/17/2007 10:38:55 PM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: gondramB

Some 20% of Republicans in NY actually DID vote for Hillary in 2006.


65 posted on 02/17/2007 10:40:25 PM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: FairOpinion

Another D.C "conservative" pundit giving a very dumb opinion and yes, an insane one.


66 posted on 02/17/2007 10:41:52 PM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: zarf

Just put the sarcasm tag to avoid "flaming".


67 posted on 02/17/2007 10:43:03 PM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: FairOpinion

>>Some 20% of Republicans in NY actually DID vote for Hillary in 2006.<<

I'll be darned - I just had a hard time believing that approach was real -outside of posturing... wow.


68 posted on 02/17/2007 10:43:07 PM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: Frohickey
"It is insanity, but I see a glint of logic in the argument. Essentially, maybe a terrorist attack under a DemocRAT president *might* just jar the Democrat peacenik's grasp on reality, and force them to accept the reality that the Republicans subscribe to."

America is screwed no matter what. The Republicans are stupid. The media is evil and the Democrats are stupid and evil and lunatics. The Democrats think America deserves to lose the war on terror and they want us to lose. I hate them.

69 posted on 02/17/2007 10:45:48 PM PST by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Nonsense in the intellect draws evil after it." C.S. Lewis)
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To: jveritas

I actually reread it a couple of times, because some suggested that it's just "tongue-in-cheek", i.e. semi-joke.

But even after rereading it, it still seems to me that it's more like "I'll take my marbles home, and let's see how YOU can deal with the problem" type attitude, which, of course is totally disastrous to us.

We can't be quitters in the political fight, because the real fight against the terrorists is so dependent on it.


"Never, never, never quit! "
--- Sir Winston Churchill


70 posted on 02/17/2007 10:46:02 PM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: prov1813man

Get real man! defeatists and traitors are always defeatists and traitors whether they have power or not, whether they have the Congress or not, whether they have the Presidency or not. The traitors and defeatists in the democrats party will stop the fight the moment they take power.


71 posted on 02/17/2007 10:48:51 PM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: prov1813man

Get real man! defeatists and traitors are always defeatists and traitors whether they have power or not, whether they have the Congress or not, whether they have the Presidency or not. The traitors and defeatists in the democrat party will stop the fight the moment they take power.


72 posted on 02/17/2007 10:52:08 PM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: FairOpinion
Are there any current or recent conservative governors? They would have the best chance.

Haley Barbour, but he's running for reelection here and has emphatically stated he will fulfill his term, upon his reelection.

73 posted on 02/17/2007 10:52:23 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I wish Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama would run...some things i don't agree with him on but otherwise a solid conservative and a sharp tack....i would support Hunter but i haven't quite hitched my wagon to anyone yet.


74 posted on 02/17/2007 10:53:00 PM PST by chasio649
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To: FairOpinion

A vote for Giuliani is the primary election is a vote for the Democrat in the general election. You will have mathematically eliminated the possibility that a Republican will win if you nominate Giuliani.


75 posted on 02/17/2007 10:56:07 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: onyx

I love Haley...but this country is not quite ready for a down to earth, common sense guy.../s


76 posted on 02/17/2007 10:57:59 PM PST by chasio649
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To: Spiff
You will have mathematically eliminated the possibility that a Republican will win if you nominate Giuliani.

Well, let's see the math and the hard data that supports your assertion. Thanks.
77 posted on 02/17/2007 10:58:14 PM PST by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: everyone

Goldberg is an airhead. He's talking nonsense.


78 posted on 02/17/2007 10:58:21 PM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: FairOpinion
I think we should not be looking for the "FR style Conservatives" because A there is none running like that and B they are not going to win a general elections if they are "FR style conservatives:. The Republican candidates still have an edge over Hillary Clinton or Obama if one of them is the democrat presidential nominee in 2008.

Hillary Clinton will destroy herself because she has a very nasty and very mean character that she cannot hide and the media cannot cover it for her and thus she will turn of the majority of voters away from her a an early stage during the campaign.

Obama is simply too stupid to win.

In my opinion, the only one who can win the Presidency in the democrat party if he runs is AL Gore.

79 posted on 02/17/2007 10:58:56 PM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: chasio649


Haley Barbour is the best. The man has kept every campaign promise.


80 posted on 02/17/2007 11:00:19 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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