Posted on 02/16/2007 1:03:23 PM PST by SJackson
He does.
Obviously evangelizing isn't my thing, but for those who practice it, I agree completely.
I admit this issue puzzles me. Other than the media, do people really care.
I agree till you got to proponent of the false prophets Joseph Smith and Brigham Young to boot. Nein!
Should he win, he's Commander in Chief, not Minister (apologies if the term is wrong for Mormons) in Chief.
Dear SJackson,
"Other than the media, do people really care."
Apparently, yes. I've seen a poll or two cited here at FR indicating that fair numbers of folks wouldn't vote for him precisely because he's a member of the LDS.
It's beyond me. And I'm speaking as a devout Catholic. The Church describes LDS baptism as invalid, the LDS conception of God to be ontologically different from the Christian conception of God, and the LDS church to be non-Christian.
Yet, even as a devout Catholic who believes what the Church teaches, I wouldn't hesitate to vote for a member of the LDS, if the candidate were actually a conservative Republican.
sitetest
LOL!!
One of my concerns about the '08 election is that the GOP retake Congress, and yet the three candidates considered to be the top contenders all have weaknesses that are likely to discourage the Republican base from casting the votes that will let us regain Congress.
In the case of Rudy Giuliani, his stances on abortion and homosexuality could offend religious conservatives to the point that many will stay home. Furthermore, his stance on the Second Amendment will so offend many sportsmen and self-defense advocates that they may stay home or vote Democrat to avoid giving him a mandate.
John McCain has flip-flopped a bit on abortion such as when he flirted with the pro-abortion side in 2000. He also attacked religious conservatives who were leaning towards Mr. Bush at that time. Finally, his campaign finance reform has been an attack on the First Amendment rights of both religious conservatives and Second Amendment supporters. He won't generate enthusiastic support from the base, and lacking that support, we may not get the votes to retake Congress.
Mitt Romney has similar abortion and homosexuality problems with religious conservatives. While he never supported either as strongly as Mr. Giuliani did, he hasn't stood strongly against either abortion or homosexuality. A pre-election switch to more conservative positions on these issues is going to leave many religious conservatives skeptical at best. In addition, his being Mormon will bother many traditional religious conservatives.
Of the three of these candidates, I like Mr. Romney the best. I won't take sides on the theological issues around his religion, but I don't have any problems supporting a Mormon. Mormons have shown themselves to be typically solid, patriotic people, and practice of Mormon beliefs shouldn't disqualify anyone from office.
I'm not supporting anyone for the nomination at this point, but I'll continue to look at Mr. Romney as a possibility.
Bill
I am a Lutheran, not LDS. I was merely stating the obvious: many mainline churches are shrinking, even disappearing, while the LDS and RLDS send missionaries to every corner of the Earth. I once visited the temple of the RLDS in Independence, Missouri while on a short vacation, and it is one of the most beautiful buildings I have ever seen. http://www.cofchrist.org/visit
If you are a Christian then I am not a Christian as a Baptist. Why? Because you believe that Lucifer and Jesus are brothers. I do not. I also do not believe that God has a human body, like you believe. LDS says that they are the TRUE Christian Church. Well Sorry, they are not. They teach the opposite of what the Bible teaches. And the Book of Mormon is provably wrong, ie, Native Americans are a lost tribe of Israel. DNA proves otherwise.
I don't really care to discuss theology with a Mormon. Mormonism is heresy pure and simple...but I would still vote for Romney if he was the alternative to Hillary.
Interesting that you should chose a German phrase to go with your activities, you sound like a jack booted thug to me, with your knee jerk, anti Mormon rhetoric.
Ok, how's this:
And a proponent of the false prophets Joseph Smith and Brigham Young to boot. Nyet!
Actually, my anti-mormonism is not what you think, on a personal level I like Mormons fine. Its the Mormon DOCTRINE, which is totally derived from Joseph Smith Mormonism's (false) prophet, I am 100% against. Jesus warned us about false prophets.
I can't trust someone in the oval office, who has to make judgment calls every day, who has no better judgment than to believe in such a charletan as Joseph Smith?
Correction:
How can I trust someone in the oval office, who has to make judgment calls every day, who has no better judgment than to believe in such a charletan as Joseph Smith?
>>In fact, while the consensus seems to be that Mrs Clinton and Mr Obama can overcome sexism and racism, it is considered more or less axiomatic that Mr Romney is in for a very hard time on account of his religion. On the face of it, this seems odd.<<
It is not odd at all, any more than if he was a Muslim. Black or female is what you are. Religion is what you believe.
We elect a president (or should) based on his beliefs. That is very much encompassed in his religeous beliefs or lack thereof.
They believe in "serial" monogamy.
Wouldn't that be H@$$|+o!e ??????
"I am a Mormon, I am a Christian, and you really have no business questioning what is in my heart.
Have a nice day and try talking to a Mormon instead of just about one next time."
Well said. I think those who doubt we are Christian would be better off to forget that foolishness and try to find out the ways in which we are like them... After all, it's the serious liberals (and the Devil who drives them) who profit from the attitude and the dissension.
"However, I really couldn't care less that he's a member of the LDS.
If I genuinely believed that he was a conservative, I'd vote for him, at least in the general election."
I agree completely. The LDS church is like any other; we've got fruits, nuts, and flakes, as well as good and decent people. It don't take all kinds, we just got all kinds.
I believe that we are all children of God. Christ is our eldest Brother, and only begotten of the father in the flesh. Satan was also a Child of God who fell from Heaven.
When Christ was resurected, what happened to his body if he did not keep it?
Yes, we believe that God has a body, glorified beyond what we know.
He also said "by their fruits ye shall know them". Show me a good practicing LDS member that does the things you must surely think they do?
Well the problem is that foundationally, you are not Christians. I would think foolishness is something like believing you will get your own planet when you die. Where does it say that in the Bible? Oh wait, it doesn't say that in the Bible.
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