Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Giuliani, Romney, and Illegal Immigration
Red County/San Diego News ^ | 2/16/07 | CA State Senator Mark Wyland

Posted on 02/16/2007 9:47:41 AM PST by NormsRevenge

Last weekend's Republican party convention featured Rudy Giuliani alone among the major presidential candidates, and Giuliani's people were present in significant numbers. They were aggressively meeting with legislators and delegates, engaging political operatives, and offering titles and duties to those who would commit. Rudy's speech on Saturday touched on uplifting Republcian themes, invoked the memory of Ronald Reagan, and naturally weighed in on the threat of terrorism.

Only toward the end of his remarks did he briefly touch on illegal immigration. Giuliani's message was, essentially, "well, yes, I know we have to control the border, especially now because of terrorism, but isn't it great that all these immigrants want to be in our country to work---it just shows what a great country we have".

MESSAGE TO RUDY: Republicans here will be appalled by this lack of understanding of California's illegal immigration crisis. This sounds like McCain all over again: obligatory acknowledgement of border control while ignoring the enormous costs of illegal immigration and gross violations of American law. This issue cuts across party lines. Californians---especially in San Diego---are fed up with footing the bill for healthcare, public safety, etc. (Do you know that 40% of all incarcerated illegals are in California---but we receive no assistance from the federal government or real border enforcement.)

Mitt Romney is the only major Republican candidate who is willing to be tough on this issue. It was crystal clear from Giuliani's speech what his true feelings are, and his lack of sympathy for those who must deal with the costs of illegal immigration is disturbing. If the coming California presidential primary includes even the slightest comparison between the candidates on this issue, neither McCain nor Giuliani will have a chance. Romney will then have a tremendous opportunity to capture this vote. Some may want to support Hunter or Tancredo (or Gingrich if he's on the ballot), but many who care about the issue will choose Romney because they believe he can win.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: giuliani; illegal; immigration; romney
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-74 next last
To: NormsRevenge
Mitt Romney is the only major Republican candidate who is willing to be tough on this issue.

First your statements should be below the line and not appear as if they were part of the newspaper article. Next you have no proof that romney is tough on illegals, and if you do let's see the proof. Don't give me the BS he did thirty days before he left office.

21 posted on 02/16/2007 10:28:58 AM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NormsRevenge
Be nice. :-) (slams the bunker hatch door)

LOL!!

22 posted on 02/16/2007 10:30:49 AM PST by Chena
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: NormsRevenge

This is exactly what drew me to Romney....after hearing Rudy out of his own mouth indorse amnesty for one and all....I'm glad to finally see this in print!


23 posted on 02/16/2007 10:32:16 AM PST by libbylu
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: org.whodat
First your statements should be below the line and not appear as if they were part of the newspaper article.

--

Those are not my statements above or below the line, they are those of the author, California State Senator Mark Wyland.

My apology. I should have provided better info on the author including his current profession if you will.

24 posted on 02/16/2007 10:34:13 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: NormsRevenge

..not just Calif....Ariz and Texas and now many are migrating to many of the midwest and eastern states....it is not just a border state issue anymore......and thank God....it woke up alot of interior states


25 posted on 02/16/2007 10:39:20 AM PST by NorCalRepub
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: My2Cents

Rudy does not cut it on many issues...Flip the flop, then reinvent...

Go Duncan Hunter


26 posted on 02/16/2007 10:52:45 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

Comment #27 Removed by Moderator

To: tiger-one

My comment was about Romney. Some people on FR are clearly impossible to satisfy.


28 posted on 02/16/2007 10:59:57 AM PST by My2Cents ("I support the right-ward most candidate who has a legitimate chance to win." -- W.F. Buckley)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: My2Cents

Gotcha


29 posted on 02/16/2007 11:47:48 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: beckaz
He got tough on gay marriage 24 hours before leaving office.

Either you are lying about your state of residence, or you don't follow politics very closely. I lived in Massachusetts for all but the last 5 months of Romeny's administration (I just moved to Seattle), so I know what you are saying is garbage. I was also at Beacon Hill for every single rally against gay marraige held there.

Romney led the fight against gay marriage from the beginning, starting immediately after the infamous SJC decision that imposed it on the state in November of 2003. He didn't leave office until a month ago. You're telling me that three and a half years is 24 hours? Maybe in your parallel universe.

Romney immediately following the decision invoked a 70 year old hereforto unenforced law to prohibit out of state gay couples from getting liscenses, and took a lot of heat for it. For over 3 years, he pushed the legislature to approve a constitutional amendment against gay marraige, and it passed just weeks after he left office. Also over the last 3 years, he made dozens of speaches against gay marraige and wrote several op-ed pieces. Gay marriage will soon be history in Massachusetts after the voters approve the Amendment, and Romney will deserve much of the credit for that.

It's sickening to see so many fellow conservatives failing to give credit where it is due.

30 posted on 02/16/2007 1:11:59 PM PST by curiosity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Vigilanteman
On economic issues, Romney is so good I'd call him a Steve Forbes with a better haircut.

You said it, brother. I think conservatives will get it sooner or later. Romney is by far our best bet.

31 posted on 02/16/2007 1:16:30 PM PST by curiosity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: curiosity
I've ruled out Giuliani and McCain. At this point I think Hunter is the best. Out of the current top three, I think Romney is the best, although I am concerned about his healthcare policy.
32 posted on 02/16/2007 1:59:17 PM PST by tmhalt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: tmhalt
Out of the current top three, I think Romney is the best, although I am concerned about his healthcare policy.

You shouldn't be. It's quite sound. But don't take my word for it; please do read about it.

33 posted on 02/16/2007 2:57:07 PM PST by curiosity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: curiosity
I think conservatives will get it sooner or later. Romney is by far our best bet.

The Mitt Romney Deception

34 posted on 02/16/2007 3:01:10 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: curiosity
It's quite sound.

Actually, it's a socialist disaster.

35 posted on 02/16/2007 3:01:54 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: curiosity
Mitt Romney is responsible for gay marriage in Massachusetts
36 posted on 02/16/2007 3:04:23 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: My2Cents
My comment was about Romney. Some people on FR are clearly impossible to satisfy.

Yes, we're unappeasable. It's so unreasonable of us to demand someone who agrees with our platform instead of the platform of the Democrats.

/s

"Most of Clinton's policies are similar to most of mine." - Rudy Giuliani

"I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a US Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it." - Mitt Romney

37 posted on 02/16/2007 3:10:55 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: EternalVigilance
That stupid claim of yours has been debunked hundreds of times already. Why do you ignore the counter argument? You're like a little kid covering his ears and yelling "la la la."

For the last time, the Supreme Judicial Court ordered the Commonwealth of Massachusetts to marry gay couples. A governor cannot legally defy a court order. If Romney had done so, he would have been impeached.

I suppose he could have followed the example of Alabama's Judge Moore, whose defiance of court orders sure did a lot of good! /sarcasm. Grow up.

38 posted on 02/16/2007 3:21:58 PM PST by curiosity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: EternalVigilance
Actually, it's a socialist disaster.

Yeah! Rellying on private insurance companies to provide coverage is really socialist!

39 posted on 02/16/2007 3:24:30 PM PST by curiosity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: curiosity
Yeah! Rellying on private insurance companies to provide coverage is really socialist!

Forcing people to pay for other people's "insurance" is. Add in the billion to two billion in taxpayer's dollars that were part of RomneyCare, and YES, you have a socialist disaster.

40 posted on 02/16/2007 3:28:06 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-74 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson