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Judge Restricts New York Police Surveillance
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| Feb. 16th, 2007
| Jim Dwyer
Posted on 02/16/2007 8:29:22 AM PST by Rodney Kings Brain
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To: Rodney Kings Brain
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posted on
02/16/2007 8:30:32 AM PST
by
CyberAnt
(Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
To: Rodney Kings Brain
Cops can't tape people, but people can tape them.
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posted on
02/16/2007 8:35:08 AM PST
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
To: Rodney Kings Brain
One could argue that taping homeless demonstrators might not be vital to law and order (or,more importantly,homeland security) but if the demonstrators in Harlem were followers of the Religion of Pieces and were chanting "death to America" (as has happened recently in London) then taping them is not only reasonable but essential.
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posted on
02/16/2007 8:37:30 AM PST
by
Gay State Conservative
("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
To: Rodney Kings Brain
Another idiot judge. Who appointed this guy?
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posted on
02/16/2007 8:48:01 AM PST
by
freedomfiter2
(Duncan Hunter: pro-life, pro-2nd Amendment, pro-border control, pro-family)
To: Rodney Kings Brain
...police must stop the routine videotaping of people at public gatherings...Volunteers needed to privately tape haters of America gatherings, so that when crime results they can provide documentation to law enforcement.
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posted on
02/16/2007 8:55:33 AM PST
by
JimRed
("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
To: Rodney Kings Brain
So the Courts have decided that the unelected Media should have more power than police agencies controlled through officials elected by the people. Another advance in the MEDIA-JUDICIAL COMPLEX's take over of our democracy. All in the name of the Constitution.
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posted on
02/16/2007 9:12:13 AM PST
by
drpix
To: Rodney Kings Brain
There are at least two "anti war" activists convicted of arson at recruiting stations. Three weeks ago, they vandalized the Capitol steps, a recruiting station at 14th and L and a Fox News truck, in addition to harassing a FOX
camera crew.
I'm OK with no more video as long as the police can preemptively TASER these bastards.
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posted on
02/16/2007 9:21:52 AM PST
by
Doctor Raoul
(What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
To: JimRed
Volunteers needed to privately tape haters of America gatherings, so that when crime results they can provide documentation to law enforcement. The National Lawyers Guild (Commie Lawyers group) sends "legal observers" to these marches. Your idea is a good one. Call it "Commie Watch" or "Peace Riot Prevention".
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posted on
02/16/2007 9:24:02 AM PST
by
Doctor Raoul
(What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
To: freedomfiter2
Haight, Charles Sherman Jr. Born 1930 in New York, NY
Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U. S. District Court, Southern District of New York
Nominated by Gerald Ford on March 2, 1976, to a seat vacated by Murray I. Gurfein; Confirmed by the Senate on March 26, 1976, and received commission on March 29, 1976. Assumed senior status on September 23, 1995.
Education:
Yale University, B.A., 1952
Yale Law School, LL.B., 1955
Professional Career:
Trial attorney, Civil Division, U.S. Department of Justice, 1955-1957
Private practice, New York City, 1957-1976
Race or Ethnicity: White
Gender: Male
To: andy58-in-nh
Nominated by Ford is no surprise. Ford's selection of Rockefeller as VEEP demonstrated his liberal leanings. Nixon only selected Ford, after Agnew's resignation, because he couldn't get any one else past a hostile liberal Congress.
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posted on
02/16/2007 9:35:53 AM PST
by
drpix
To: drpix
Yep. Having lived through that time, I wouldn't hold it against Ford. After the elections in '74, Congress was utterly dominated by Democrats, who were feeling their oats after having forced Nixon from office. Then they voted to cut off funding for Vietnam, and... gee, why does this sound vaguely familiar?
To: Gay State Conservative; All
Am I the only one that gets the point?
Can you guys not see that the power for authorities to tape people and harass them works not only against the bad guys but against everyone?
Imagine Hillary with the power to do this at churches, synagogues, Minutemen rallies, Free Republic protests, etc. They film people looking for some reason to shut them down and charge people with any crime they can use to intimidate. Look at the abuses of the IRS by the Clintons.
Dash cams in cop cars are not the same thing, BTW. In that situation the officer is involved in a potential criminal or civil incident, not standing off to the side observing and looking for something wrong.
The way it should work is that the police can't tape people but can use tapes made by citizens. This seems obvious to me.
To: JimRed
"Volunteers needed to privately tape haters of America gatherings, so that when crime results they can provide documentation to law enforcement."
That is a better option.
To: andy58-in-nh
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posted on
02/16/2007 10:12:16 AM PST
by
freedomfiter2
(Duncan Hunter: pro-life, pro-2nd Amendment, pro-border control, pro-family)
To: Rodney Kings Brain
but they can't stop US from filming and then giving the take to the PD...
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posted on
02/16/2007 10:13:30 AM PST
by
Chode
(American Hedonist ©®)
To: webstersII
"The way it should work is that the police can't tape people but can use tapes made by citizens."
I agree - why don't more of us do this? You are correct, a tape freely given to the police by an individual is admissible in court, etc. I must confess, I had never really considered doing this but the next time there is some gathering of lunatics in my community I might give it a go.
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posted on
02/16/2007 11:50:17 AM PST
by
Rodney Kings Brain
(The Ghost of Eldridge Cleaver's Crack pipe walks among us...)
To: webstersII; All
"Can you guys not see that the power for authorities to tape people and harass them works not only against the bad guys but against everyone?" It is about who can videotape "at public gatherings." The way I see it is a Media overwhelmingly dominated by leftist can still do it as they please, but now OUR Police can only do it with the approval of a Judicial System also overwhelmingly dominated by leftist. And how can I see this clear (but only most recent) victory for the MEDIA-JUDICIAL COMPLEX as a good thing?
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posted on
02/16/2007 2:53:58 PM PST
by
drpix
To: drpix
"OUR Police"
Think long-term instead of short-term.
Just because you think they are "Our Police" means they may not be in the future. Think about if someone like Hillary has the power to tape this type of stuff and use it to intimidate people.
"a Media overwhelmingly dominated by leftist can still do it as they please"
Sure, and so can anyone else these days. It's not just about left-wing dominance of the media anymore. The pajama media brought down Dan Blather, for example.
To: freedomfiter2
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posted on
02/17/2007 6:07:43 AM PST
by
SeaBiscuit
(God Bless America..Duncan Hunter 2008.)
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