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True enough, and very sad, because as you noted, EVERYONE reads this site to get the pulse on what Conservatives are thinking. Sadly, we have become an embarassment that many are backing away from in droves. Outside of the cursing, what is the difference today between us and DU? So many uniformed comments, so much emotional rhetoric and ignorance of facts, all in an attempt to be the smartest person in the room, rather than to forward the cause.

I used to rant all the time about the simple fact that you cant do squat if you dont win, only to be shouted down by creeps with agendas beyond the Conservative cause.

One example: Duncan Hunter.

I live in San Diego County and I KNOW Duncan Hunter, and I can tell you that his chances for the Presidency are worse than mine. Any Freeper could do a bit of digging and find a TON of financial malfeasence and dirty dealing in Hunter's background, but because he parrots a good Conservative speak, many just jump on that train with nothing but their own ignorance to guide them. It is embarassing to watch, and it reminds me of the same foolishness that cause so-called Conservatives to back Ross Perot, leading to the Clinton presidency.

Nuts will be nuts, but you would think that with Google and other tools, that Conservatives would have enough energy to back up their positions with facts. Until that happens, Conservatism is DOOMED.

Wait until Sam Johnson speaks tomorrow on the Floor of the House.

If they are not shamed, they never will be.

Here is a quote by Sam Johnson yesterday.

"Words can't fully describe the unspeakable damage of the anti-American efforts against the war back home to the guys on the ground" in Vietnam, said Johnson, R-Texas, who was released 34 years ago on Tuesday.

He spent 7 years as a POW in North Vietnam, and was still a POW when the Democrats defunded the war in Vietnam, he said he thought they would be there forever after hearing about it.

Conservativism among the people is far from doomed, emotional posters or not.

Conservatism as a Washington DC political movement is on the ropes for sure, but what will save it will be determined by the actions of the Republican leadership in Washington.

It wasn't a bunch of misinformed voters who cost the Republicans the House and Senate... It was the absurd political positions taken by Rep. politicos. When a Republican takes the same positions as a democrat on a majority of the issues, it's time for him or her to go. THAT is what defeats conservativism on the governmental level.

The democrat party will lie, cheat, steal, and beg to get your vote for two reasons: 1)Their only concern is the expansion of power, and; 2) Democrat voters, especially liberals, don't vote with their minds or consciences... they vote to maintain or expand the power base of democrats and government in general. Democrats and their voters care most for what is best for their party, and little for what is best for America.

Conservative voters, on the other hand, DO vote their minds and consciences. They are generally less politically active but better politically informed. They have a better understanding of the workings of government and the Constitution. They care about the future of their country FIRST, and the well-being of their party second. Therefore, when their candidates behave exactly as the opposing team does, many believe it is time to start fresh, rather than just voting like a bunch of democrats.