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To: dirtboy
So please, tell me Rudy's foreign policy experience. [..]

Um, you're missing the context of that conversation: "redgolum" was trying to make a point, by claiming that if Giuliani came out against WoT then people like me would either still support him (thus illustrating how ridiculous we are) or would not support him (thus forcing us to admit we are "single-issue voters").

I simply admitted to him that if Giuliani were somehow anti-war, I would indeed not support him; in other words, for him to be out-and-out "anti-war" would indeed be a deal-breaker for me. (And that there's nothing wrong with that.) In the course of this, I never claimed that I know Giuliani to be some kind of a huge foreign-policy expert.

In general, just so you know, I am not arguing that Giuliani is great, in this thread. Support whomever you want in the primary, for crying out loud - I don't really care. I am just pointing out that the hatred some seem to have for him is unwarranted, and the threats to defect/split the party if he's nominated, are stupid and self-defeating.

159 posted on 02/14/2007 9:58:29 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Dr. Frank fan
Um, you're missing the context of that conversation:

I was responding to your statement.

am just pointing out that the hatred some seem to have for him is unwarranted,

Rudy talking point #1 - call his opponents haters.

I don't hate Rudy. I just think he or McCain would be horrible choices for the GOP nominee and would split the party. I guess you'd rather relive 1992 than avoid a repeat. That history thingy.

162 posted on 02/14/2007 10:00:30 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: Dr. Frank fan
Which is indeed my point.

Many Rudy supporters attack me and those who hold views like me as "single issue" voters, and do not answer when I as a question such as "If Rudy went anti war to be elected, would you support him?"

I can't vote for Rudy. Since I am in Iowa right now, my vote in the primary cycle will have more of an impact than in other states. I will campaign for and support someone other than Rudy. If he becomes the nomination, I could not in good conscience vote for him as he holds the opposite of many of my core beliefs.

You stated that you are, in some ways, a foreign policy "single issue" voter. Good, then I and the rest here know where you stand. Many other Rudy threads simply state "He is the only one who can beat Hillary!" with out articulating why he would be better than Hillary in domestic (in which he has publicly said he agrees with much of what HRC wants) or foreign policy.
197 posted on 02/14/2007 10:33:31 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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