[azhenfud]

"Put it this way: Even if Giuliani is unacceptable to the social conservatives who dominate the GOP's base, they ought to give the man his due. No candidate so far in the running has jousted more with their own enemies, and none boasts more victories to his credit, either."

Put it his way: Rudy is on the wrong side of more issues that make up Conservative values than he is aligned with. Forcing Conservatives to choose an abortion advocate and SSM embolder over personal convictions is dangerous territory for the GOP. Someone so opposed to established GOP principle is the LAST thing Republicans need in the WH with a Democrat House & Senate. Are Republicans so naive they'll believe he'll somehow foward our cause?

The elite of the GOP will push Conservatives so far to the left when Conservatives move, the GOP will fall on its arse.

The GOP ought just come right out and admit it no longer embraces conservative values; it will with Rudy.

[mathluv]

'Someone so opposed to established GOP principle is the LAST thing Republicans need in the WH with a Democrat House & Senate. '

Do you really think the dims will hold Congress in '08?