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News From The Long War, Thread 2
Various | 2/13/06 | Knitting a Conundrum and others

Posted on 02/13/2007 6:28:10 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum

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To: Uncle Ike

It's beginning to look like the sentiment of the "unofficial" state department is becoming the official position.

What ever happened to "stick to your guns", a good phrase both literally and figuratively.


4,741 posted on 03/19/2007 2:36:06 AM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: Bahbah

" a good phrase both literally and figuratively "

But, oh, so politically incorrect...... ;~(


4,742 posted on 03/19/2007 2:42:38 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Aspiring Guru Seeks Disciples and Admiring Followers -- apply within)
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To: Uncle Ike; All

Here are a few words from Sgt. Dave Thul, currently deployed in Iraq.

"There can be no compromises in Iraq, no negotiated peace. The enemy here is radical Islam, whether in the sectarian violence in Baghdad that seeks to draw all of the Middle East into open war, or the terrorists of Al-Qaida here in the Anbar province who are looking for a new home base since we kicked them out of Afghanistan. If we pull out before the job is done, we will face not only the same chaos and genocide that we saw after pulling out of Vietnam, but we will leave Iraq in a power vacuum with greedy and ambitious neighbors on all sides.

I've now been deployed 2½ years of the 3½ years since my daughter was born. I would love nothing more than to be at home sharing in her young life and enjoying a Minnesota summer. But I want to come home with honor, knowing that I have helped to make the world she will live in a little safer."

More at the link: http://powerlineblog.com/archives/017069.php


4,743 posted on 03/19/2007 3:13:25 AM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Mornin folks.

"French President Jacques Chirac told Israel at the start of the war in Lebanon that France would support an Israeli assault on Syria, it was reported on Sunday."

I wouldn't fall for this one with someone else's country, let alone mine. Chirac is too obvious in his manipulations.

4,744 posted on 03/19/2007 3:16:16 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Religion of peace my arse - We need a maintenance Crusade - piss on Islam)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Good morning, Workerbee.

We are needing some "on the bright side" things this morning, it seems to me. So how great is it to learn that our guys in Iraq know all about the Gathering of Eagles and what happened in DC on Saturday.

"Dave posts on the Forum from Iraq:

Thank you and God bless to all the pro war supporters in DC yesterday. The anti war protesters getting their butts kicked (figuratively of course) is the topic of the morning here in Iraq. One of my young soldiers pointed out that you can easily tell which pictures show pro and which show anti-the pro war guys are the ones holding Old Glory."

Thanks to all who participated. The message was delivered to those to whom it matters the most.

Link: http://powerlineblog.com/archives/017068.php


4,745 posted on 03/19/2007 3:29:56 AM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: Bahbah

" We are needing some "on the bright side" things this morning, it seems to me. "

Yes, indeed-y!!!

Thank you, Bahbah!!

(That was almost better'n coffee.... ;~) )


4,746 posted on 03/19/2007 3:41:18 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Aspiring Guru Seeks Disciples and Admiring Followers -- apply within)
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To: Uncle Ike

We can use some good news.

I think it is interesting that the knowledge of the "real story" of what happened there on Saturday would simply not be known were it not for the internet.

Very dangerous, all of these facts flashing around the world. Some might be worried about that sort of thing.


4,747 posted on 03/19/2007 3:57:51 AM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: Bahbah

" Very dangerous, all of these facts flashing around the world. "

Not to worry -- I don't think it'll catch on... With the possible exception of a few of us misfits, "facts" are inconsequential and easily trumped by "feelings"....


4,748 posted on 03/19/2007 4:34:02 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Aspiring Guru Seeks Disciples and Admiring Followers -- apply within)
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To: Uncle Ike

Trumped by feelings and by the agenda of whoever happens to be writing.

I have read for I think the 15th time that General Pace called homosexuality immoral when he said no such thing.


4,749 posted on 03/19/2007 4:39:15 AM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: Bahbah

Assad: Olmert's gov't weakest in history
By JPOST.COM STAFF


Syrian President Bashar Assad said on Monday that the current Israeli government was the weakest in Israel's history and that he was not optimistic about peace talks between the two.

In an interview with the Saudi newspaper Al Jazeera, Assad said that a slew of European, American and Arab envoys had come to Syria in an attempt to mediate between Israel and Damascus, but that no serious contacts had taken place.

Nonetheless, Assad said, "You can't completely lose hope for peace. Otherwise, you have to go the way of war, whether you want to or not."

Assad has repeatedly made overtures of peace in the past few months, but Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has rejected them as long as the Syrian regime continues to support terror, particularly Hizbullah in Lebanon.

Link: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1173879120143&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


4,750 posted on 03/19/2007 5:08:30 AM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: Bahbah

Mar. 19, 2007 12:52 | Updated Mar. 19, 2007 13:22
Explosion in Gaza kills Jihad operative
By ASSOCIATED PRESS


An explosion went off Monday in the home of an Islamic Jihad operative, killing him and wounding 20 others, including children, Palestinian security officials said.

Palestinian security officials identified the dead man as 30-year-old Alla al-Hesi.

The blast took place in the crowded Shati refugee camp on the outskirts of Gaza City.

The officials said the cause of the blast wasn't immediately known, but raised the possibility that the operative had mishandled explosives.

The blast went off near the UN's food distribution warehouse

Link: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1173879119746&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


4,751 posted on 03/19/2007 5:10:26 AM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: Bahbah

Wives blame Israel, Turkey for Iranian official's 'kidnapping'

By Reuters

The wives of an Iranian ex-deputy defense minister who disappeared in Turkey last month blamed Turkey for his disappearance, saying Turkish security forces handed the official over to Israel, media reported.

Iran's police chief has suggested that Ali Reza Asgari, who disappeared after checking into an Istanbul hotel on February 7, was kidnapped by Western intelligence. Israel and the United States have denied any involvement in his disappearance.

"We only know that Turkish security forces have handed him over to Israel," Asgari's wife Ziba Ahmadi was quoted as saying on Monday by the ILNA news agency.


More at the link: http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/839441.html


4,752 posted on 03/19/2007 5:37:25 AM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: Uncle Ike

****trail of breadcrumbs****


4,753 posted on 03/19/2007 6:50:50 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Aspiring Guru Seeks Disciples and Admiring Followers -- apply within)
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To: Bahbah

"Trumped by feelings and by the agenda of whoever happens to be writing."

Didn't make it to Washington (Just "No Excuse, Sir"....da**it), but have to think that one of the unintended consequences of the TraitorMedia's largely half arsed job of censoring GOE out of existence is going to be the even more dramatic and immediate loss of credibility and circulation.

Then again, if the only people left reading the NYSlime or WaPo are the grossest Moonbats around, the only place their "journalistic integrity" has to go is deeper into the sewer.

....just how low CAN they go is the real question....


4,755 posted on 03/19/2007 6:59:32 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (.....still here on the butt end of the spear.)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet
just how low CAN they go is the real question....

I doubt that we have seen the worst of it yet.

4,756 posted on 03/19/2007 7:03:55 AM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: Uncle Ike

This has always been a weakness with our foreign policy. I used to get soooooo mad at DOS when I was young because we had backed so many bad governments because of the stability they had to get things accomplished during the cold war. The truth is expediency and willingness to work with us counts more than ideology -- and long as Mubarak is willing to do that, we are not going to work to bring him down.

But it is the existance of bad, corrupt, unfree, unjust governments which are the continual breeding ground of those who hate us, who embrace the various political movements like the Muslim Brotherhood.

There is a price you pay for expediency.


4,757 posted on 03/19/2007 7:15:56 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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News Roundup, 3/19/07

Haaretz News Tracker

17:02 Syrian President Assad says supports Lebanese unity government (Reuters)
16:59 U.S. grants Iranian president visa for address to Security Council (AP)
16:49 State Department: U.S. plans some contact with new PA government (Reuters)
16:48 Iran tells foreign envoys it won`t budge on nuclear issue (Reuters)
16:16 Hamas slams Abbas` choice of Dahlan as security chief (Reuters)
16:15 Hezbollah accuses U.S. of obstructing solution to Lebanon crisis (DPA)
16:08 Hooters restaurant chain to open branch in Tel Aviv (Reuters)
16:06 Egypt arrests Palestinian suicide bomber waiting to cross border into Israel (AP)
16:05 Italy: New PA unity government should not be shunned (Reuters)
15:33 Remand extended for Holon man, 73, in connection with his wife`s death (Haaretz)
15:31 Palestinian tries to attack female soldier at checkpoint near Nablus (Israel Radio)
14:58 Father of abducted BBC journalist pleads for his release (Haaretz)
14:55 Man hurt by horse startled by ATV to be compensated as road accident victim (Haaretz)
14:28 New Palestinian information minister says sanctions no longer justified (DPA)
13:39 2 wives of Iranian ex-deputy defense minister blame Turkey for `kidnapping` (Reuters)
13:18 Norwegian deputy foreign minister meets Palestinian prime minister (AP)
13:04 BBC says it has received assurances kidnapped correspondent is `okay` (AP)
13:04 Northern resident given 14 years in jail for raping, killing prostitute (Haaretz)
12:47 Assad: Olmert`s government is the weakest in the history of Israel (Israel Radio)
12:42 Gaza security officials say explosion in activist`s home kills one, wounds 10 (AP)
12:39 Palestinian security officials: Explosion heard in Gaza home of Jihad activist (AP)
12:06 Israeli moderately wounded in shooting attack at gas station near Gaza (Haaretz)
11:48 Syrian court sentences three human rights activists to jail (DPA)
11:47 Five people, including baby, hurt in road accident in northern Galilee (Haaretz)
11:39 UN chief: Formation of PA unity government is positive development (Israel Radio)
11:31 Three youths arrested for allegedly molesting 20-year-old woman (Israel Radio)
11:10 Two-year-old child in Egypt tests positive for bird flu (DPA)
10:54 Ministerial committee unanimously agrees to call Lebanon conflict a `war` (Haaretz)
10:18 Histadrut chair rejects treasury proposal to pay all but 650 council workers (Haaretz)
10:08 Poll: More than half of Israelis support contact with new PA gov`t (AP)
09:42 Industry Ministry to crack down on labor-law violations (Haaretz)
09:37 Egyptian envoy to urge gov`t to probe charges IDF killed POWs in `67 (Israel Radio)
09:34 Parents ask Defense Min. to postpone Aug. recruitment due to school strikes (Haaretz)
08:58 Two-day civil defense exercise to begin Tuesday (Israel Radio)
08:32 Histadrut: All workers must get back pay if strike is to be averted (Israel Radio)
08:06 Medical Assn. report slams health system performance during war (Israel Radio)
07:32 Court to discuss matching students` rights to those of yeshiva students (Army Radio)
07:28 Jordan`s PM: Arab states did not market peace initiative to Israel well (Israel Radio)
07:11 Jordanian press: U.S. stance towards Palestinian cabinet `disappointing` (DPA)
07:02 Histadrut labor federation maintains threat of general strike on Wed. (Israel Radio)
06:45 2 soldiers killed, 12 wounded in attack by Tamil Rebels in Sri Lanka (AP)
05:38 Witnesses: 2 dead, 16 wounded as Somali insurgents mortar seaport (AP)
04:59 Coalition demands delay of rabbinical judge appointments (Haaretz)
04:18 Peretz says will focus on Arab sector in Labor primaries (Haaretz)
03:44 Iran to open first stretch of Armenian gas pipeline (AP)
03:13 U.S. announces frozen N. Korean money to be released for humanitarian use (AP)
02:30 Sources: Israel will not falter on PA economic embargo (Haaretz)
02:21 High Court rejects petition to dismiss finance cmte. chair Yakov Litzman (Israel Radio)
01:41 Despite mounting tensions, Livni says not planning to openly battle PM (Haaretz)
01:32 Netanyahu: Gov`t doing too little too late in regard to dangerous Mecca deal (Haaretz)
00:48 Swastikas, anti-Semitic graffiti spray painted on synagogue in s. Russia (Israel Radio)
00:32 93 people killed in car accidents since beginning of 2007 (Army Radio)
00:29 After meeting with finance min., Histadrut sticks with decision to strike (Army Radio)
00:04 Netanyahu: Public will pressure MKs to overthrow current government (Israel Radio)



Ynet News Tracker

Government sources: Gaza shooting shows Hamas' true intentions
(16:50 , 03.19.07)
Egyptian authorities arrest Palestinian planning suicide attack in Israel
(16:38 , 03.19.07)
MK Hanegbi: Gaza confrontation impending
(15:29 , 03.19.07)
Soldiers thwart stabbing attack at Nablus checkpoint
(15:23 , 03.19.07)
Peretz: Israel must take political initiative
(15:03 , 03.19.07)
Russia's international uranium enrichment center to begin work soon, deputy premier says, EU
(14:41 , 03.19.07)
Hamas claims responsibility for shooting Israeli
(14:19 , 03.19.07)
Quartet to discuss approach to new Palestinian government
(14:02 , 03.19.07)
Iranian official's two wives blame Turkey for his 'kidnap'
(13:45 , 03.19.07)
Israel to help Austrialia deal with drought
(13:19 , 03.19.07)
18 killed in Kirkuk blasts
(13:09 , 03.19.07)
Islamic Jihad explosives expert killed, 18 wounded in Gaza
(13:03 , 03.19.07)
Egyptian boy, 2, tests positive for bird flu
(12:47 , 03.19.07)
Islamic Jihad activist killed in Gaza blast
(12:39 , 03.19.07)
State to compensate Palestinian injured by IDF
(12:07 , 03.19.07)
Israeli moderately injured in Gaza border shooting attack
(12:03 , 03.19.07)
Assad says Saudi ties have been 'cloudy'
(11:49 , 03.19.07)
Bank of Israel: National growth projected at 5.1 percent
(11:33 , 03.19.07)
Government: 2006 Lebanon conflict – a war
(10:59 , 03.19.07)
BBC calls for more help to free journalist in Gaza
(10:41 , 03.19.07)
Bird flu strikes again in northern Thailand
(10:14 , 03.19.07)
Poll shows 18 percent of Iraqis trust US forces
(09:42 , 03.19.07)
US embassy vehicle hit by roadside bomb blast in Afghanistan
(09:04 , 03.19.07)
Ahmadinejad to open first stretch of Armenian gas pipeline from Iran
(08:42 , 03.19.07)
2 Palestinian thieves wounded in car chase
(08:36 , 03.19.07)
Japan, UN sign $4.2 million food deal for Palestinian refugees
(07:53 , 03.19.07)
Report: 2 soldiers killed, 12 wounded in Tamil rebel attack in Sri Lanka
(07:22 , 03.19.07)
IDF arrests 13 wanted Palestinians
(06:07 , 03.19.07)
2 soldiers killed, 12 wounded in Tamil rebel attack in Sri Lanka
(05:09 , 03.19.07)
8 bodies found after cargo ships collide in East China Sea
(04:10 , 03.19.07)
US, North Korea resolve Macau bank dispute
(03:10 , 03.19.07)
Hundreds protest in Bangkok ahead of coup’s 6-month anniversary
(02:13 , 03.19.07)
Afghan leaders urge Germany to do more
(01:01 , 03.19.07)
Iraqi security forces raid Sunni lawmaker's home
(00:08 , 03.19.07)
Wire Reports via Yahoo News






This will be the last news roundup posted on this thread. Tommorow I will flip the thread when I post the news to the News from the Long War Thread III But that won't be until tomorrow morning. All of today's updates will be here.
4,760 posted on 03/19/2007 8:16:53 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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