Posted on 02/12/2007 11:22:29 AM PST by B-Chan
This thread makes me want to go back to my old tag line:
"Most Freepers would have responded 'Damn right I'm without sin! I'll throw that first stone!"
You would think:
1. the Duke-Lacross-Nifong disaster,
2. the travesty that is the Scooter Libby trial,
3. the Travis County prosecution of Sen. Kay Baily Hutchinson for being a Republican
4. the Travis County prosecution of Tom Delay
would teach the don't-break-the-law-and-you-have-nothing-to-fear morons something.
Just because someone is guilty of a crime does not mean they should be assaulted and raped. It's really not a funny matter.
I've always been a strong believer that it is society that extracts justice, not a bunch of thugs in a prison. While I am not always pleased by what passes for justice in our society, I am always appalled to read of rape.
It may not be part of their job description (though I suspect that "enforcing rules" is part of that description), but just as cops must follow an ethic of justice, so should guards. If it needs to be written more clearly in their contract, then do it. If we need to professionalize our guards so as to have an ethic of justice, then do it.
Hey now... my cousin and his son are both guards at a Federal Pen. I think you judge a little quickly. People do it because it pays better than a lot of other jobs, there is job security, and maybe they want to do something meaningful.
That said, their biggest beef is that the inmates all have lawyers and they'll sue them at the drop of a hat. The guards can't touch them, the inmates know it, and yes, the inmates run the asylum to a large extent.
While your at it:
1. Don't be a white male when the DA is running for re-election and needs the black vote (Dke-Lacross-Nifong disaster)
2. Don't be a Republican in Washington D.C. -- (the travesty that is the Scooter Libby trial)
3. Don't be a Republican Senator from Texas (Travis County prosecution of Sen. Kay Baily Hutchinson for being a Republican)
4. Don't be an effective Republican Speaker of the House (the Travis County prosecution of Tom Delay)
Rape is horrifying regardless of gender. However, I'm wondering that this fellow is in jail on a 3rd DUI while I just read another where a fellow is footloose and fancy free while committing his 5th DUI. Interesting!
Worcester driver charged in fifth DUI stop
Worcester Telegram ^ | 2/12/07 | Kalke
Posted on 02/12/2007 12:33:32 PM PST by pabianice
Personally, I don't have a lot of sympathy for those in the slam (and that's with two in my family having spent time there). But locking two potentially violent lawbreakers in the same room, or having them mix in a large common area, unsupervised, is just a stupid idea.
Whatever the penalty is for whatever crime committed, even the death penalty, rape ain't part of it.
Owl_Eagle
If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.
"Personally, I'd consider quitting the booze."
I suspect that the author of this letter will move on to stronger methods of masking their emotional pain after their stint in Prison.
This is why we need you to post more often to more threads.
If there is no loss of property or life, and no personal injury, there should be NO JAIL TIME. If the punishment fit the crime, then ALL financial crimes (theft, breaking and entering, embezzlement, etc) should be restitution and a financial penalty (the old book taught 4X what you stole). "Work Camps" (shudder at the historical verbiage, but we could come up with another name), for those who are recicivist offenders/scofflaws. This would get rid of a great many people who pose no physical threat to society and who are like the pathetic person who entered a fairly soft prisoner, and who will come out an enraged, hardened animal.
It is interesting that in ancient times there were no "prisons" as such. Penalties for crimes were financial restitution, public flogging, and death. That is it. It was William Penn and crowd who were responsible for changing our system from one which focused on "justice" (you break the law, you pay) to "reform" (helping the prisoner back into society). Those were the first prisons in the colonies.
This is pretty shocking and disgusting.
Then I think about the man who murdered my aunt and was sentenced to less than 20 years.
Prison is hell and Im ok with that.
Many people are having a hard time coming to terms with the idea that "the law" is a nebulous concept, increasingly applied for the political advantage of the state and its actors as much as for the pursuit of justice. The black-and-white world of "good guys" and "bad guys" that they grew up with is soothing and comforting, but it is no longer an accurate model of reality - if it ever was.
The last thing we need is a bunch of trained rapists leaving the prison system. Especially those that rape men.
That probably goes a long way towards explaining the callous attitude I've seen in a lot of COs. I can't imagine how I'd be able to cope working under those conditions.
LOL, the only one I'm at risk of is number 1.
I work in Durham, NC. But I do try to avoid black strippers, whores, exotic dancers, etc.
Ya know, if other prisoners, like the ones at Gitmo, have a right to pray five times a day and be supplied with engraved copies of the Koran, then surely this guy deserves to be protected from rapists.
ML/NJ
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