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Some in party believe he (Giuliani) can win in California
San Diego Union Tribune ^
| Feb. 11, 2007
| John Marelius
Posted on 02/11/2007 10:27:49 PM PST by FairOpinion
Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, still basking in his can-do post-Sept. 11 image, got a rousing welcome yesterday from Republican activists searching for a presidential candidate who can win in California.
No Republican presidential candidate has carried California since the elder George Bush did in 1988, and no one has even run a competitive race in the increasingly Democratic-leaning state since then.
Republicans are hopeful they have prospects in the large 2008 field who can reverse the trend by combining liberal and conservative stands that has proven so successful for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.
The popularity of the governor shows that you can take the positions that he holds and win in California, said Duf Sundheim, outgoing Republican state chairman. I think Giuliani has the same opportunity.
As for Giuliani, backers say his record on reducing crime and taxes in New York should give conservatives plenty to like. He was introduced to the convention yesterday by businessman Bill Simon, the 2002 Republican nominee for California governor who once worked under Giuliani in the U.S. Attorney's Office in New York.
Simon said that as mayor, Giuliani cut taxes 23 times and reduced the city's murder rate by 67 percent. That is a record that as a conservative Republican, I can heartily endorse, he said.
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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2008; bluestateliberal; corrupt; dreamon; electionpresident; elections; giuliani; giuliani2008; gop; johnwayneheaint; mobties; partysplitter; phony; republicans; rudyspam
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To: calcowgirl
Thanks for tracking down the real info on this. It's a shame that people on a conservative website would be spreading such garbage.
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posted on
02/12/2007 9:44:57 PM PST
by
B Knotts
(Newt '08!)
To: nopardons
What will you do in the general, if Rudy is the GOP candidate? I don't know what Sun would do but I would put up a poster of RUDY - GOP with prominently displayed over the top of it.
322
posted on
02/12/2007 9:50:49 PM PST
by
steve86
(Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
To: BearWash
Which will accomplish absolutely
NOTHING
To: singfreedom
I'm with you on Newt. Personal issues aside, he's the best man for the job. He'd eat Hiterly for lunch in the debates.
But with Newt defraying his decision and losing ground, Guliani is the best alternative. Not perfect on Gun Rights, Immigration, etc., but he's savvy enough not to rock the boat too much. He effectively dealt with a bunch of whacko socialists on the NYC council and he'll do what it takes to not rock the boat with the Republican base/Congress.
To: rintense
Name the Red States that would want Hiterly to win. She doesn't play too well in "flyover" country and would have difficulties winning in the Republican strongholds in the South.
You could put the anti-Christ against Hitlery and residents n states like Mississippi and Alabama would have to think twice before pulling the lever for the beast.
To: NYRepublican72
I agree Hillary is not an option. But there are some who would rather vote for something, than against something. Using fear to try and motivate voters is not the way to go.
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posted on
02/13/2007 5:46:47 AM PST
by
rintense
(Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
To: nopardons
"What will you do in the general, if Rudy is the GOP candidate?"
I'm not even thinking about that right now - I'm focusing on getting people to vote in the primaries for a conservative, like Tancredo, Hunter, or whatever other conservative might emerge between now and then.
327
posted on
02/13/2007 11:30:26 AM PST
by
Sun
(Let your New Year's resolution be to vote for conservatives in the primaries! Happy 2007!)
To: Beagle8U
As a life long member of the NRA, and the wife of a retired military man, guns are real important to me (I carry a C/C .40 S&W Glock to the grocery store for heavens sake!). However, that said, it is not the only important issue for me. I think everyone here would agree a win for "President Hillary" would be a disaster---on sooooo many levels---and that is precisely what you are leaving the door open for. Most of us would LIKE someone more conservative, but name one, just one, that can beat Hillary. I can't think of even one, no matter how much money they could raise.
If I lived in New York, and especially if I were the Mayor, I would have grave concerns about some dumbass firing off 15 rounds from his "hand cannon" in the thin walled apartment next door. The law of "unintended consequences" could come rapidly into play---as in multiple dead bodies! As a "gun person", I'm certain you recognize the fact that the Bronx, or Brooklyn, is a lot different than the "wilds" of Michigan--or Oklahoma for that matter. There are parts of this country termed "fly over" country for a reason (population density). I am quite certain Rudy recognizes New York is much different than other parts of the country. I am also certain he understands just what sort of insurrection could result from an illegal "gun grab". You can take the outcry over the Miers nomination and multiply it by about a thousand times.
I read the "1st Freedom", every month, from cover to cover, but it is ALWAYS with the realization that the NRA is interested in one issue, only, and I, being a well rounded concerned citizen, am not a "one issue wonder". (By the way, what's up with those outrageous hunting license fees up there?)
328
posted on
02/14/2007 2:55:46 AM PST
by
singfreedom
("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
To: Sun
Then vote "conservative", but when "President Hillary" takes your money, your home, then your guns, don't bitch. You really think she's interested in reopening the abortion issue? Rudy has at least said he thinks it should be a state issue, and rightly so.
Hey, maybe you can get Ross or Pat to run again.
329
posted on
02/14/2007 3:12:11 AM PST
by
singfreedom
("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
To: Sun
I like Tancredo too, but I don't think he has a ghost of a chance. He's not doing well raising money (I sent one through his website.) and he just doesn't have the name recognition necessary in Red states. Like it or not, we have to carry some Red states to win--and that, unfortunately, is what it comes down to.
330
posted on
02/14/2007 3:18:53 AM PST
by
singfreedom
("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
To: singfreedom
I gave you my honest opinion on how the vote will most likely go in this state on the gun issue. The gay rights agenda is very unpopular here also. Then there is the PBA thing that isn't popular anywhere, even with most of the dems.
The hunting license thing is because people were stupid enough to give the Canadian Communist a second term. Within 30 days of the election she came out with her plan to double all license fees and raise everyones taxes.
If there is any silver lining its the fact that she is unlikely to ever be elected to any other statewide office.
Donald Duck should have been able to beat her last time. Unfortunately we ran Daffy Duck who snubbed sportsmen and was the head of Amway. If there is anything less popular than an Amway salesman at the door I can't think of it off hand.
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posted on
02/14/2007 5:31:23 AM PST
by
Beagle8U
(Jimmy Carter changed me into a Republican.......Ronnie made me DAMN proud of it!)
To: singfreedom
"I think everyone here would agree a win for "President Hillary" would be a disaster---on sooooo many levels---and that is precisely what you are leaving the door open for."
I agree with the first part of that, she would be a disaster. On the second part, I'm not leaving the door open, Rudy as the nominee would guarantee a Hillary win.
332
posted on
02/14/2007 5:40:26 AM PST
by
Beagle8U
(Jimmy Carter changed me into a Republican.......Ronnie made me DAMN proud of it!)
To: singfreedom
Rudy will also take your guns, is pro-abortion, including pba, pro-illegal immigration, pro-special rights for gays, believes in global warming - just like Hillary.
Don't forget what happened in 2006.
One of Rush's substitute hosts said that the Republican candidate could lose around 20% from people who will stay home or vote third party, if it's a lib.
I like Duncan Hunter.
Primaries are a year away - it's too early to feel you have to settle.
333
posted on
02/14/2007 1:56:17 PM PST
by
Sun
(Let your New Year's resolution be to vote for conservatives in the primaries! Happy 2007!)
To: Sun
I like Hunter, yes, but I like Newt better. I have not made up my mind, other than to say I'll be voting for whoever has an (R) behind their name.
I'm just trying to keep my options open, but I will tell you, even with my reservations about Rudy, I'll vote for him in a heartbeat if the choice is between he and Hillary. Are you saying you won't vote if he gets the nomination? You would really risk Hillary being President for 8 years? You are honestly willing to take that risk by not voting?
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posted on
02/15/2007 1:53:28 PM PST
by
singfreedom
("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
To: singfreedom
Sorry all, just a correction. The "one" should have read "some".
(I hate the keyboard on this damn laptop! ;)
335
posted on
02/15/2007 1:58:19 PM PST
by
singfreedom
("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
To: singfreedom
As I said in my last post, I'm focusing on getting people to vote in the primaries for a conservative, like Tancredo, Hunter, or whatever other conservative might emerge between now and then.
If we run a liberal against a liberal, we will end up with a liberal.
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posted on
02/15/2007 5:41:33 PM PST
by
Sun
(Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there.)
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