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Rudy Giuliani: Supply-Sider-in-Chief
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| Feb. 9, 2007
| Deroy Murdock
Posted on 02/10/2007 9:26:03 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: EternalVigilance
Are you calling Bush a liberal?If he won't, I will. Cthulu is a conservative, though. Very soulful guy. Agrees with you on what you care about. Especially your soul.
To: MichiganConservative
182
posted on
02/10/2007 11:04:14 PM PST
by
EternalVigilance
("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
To: Carry_Okie
"No, Bill Simon's worst enemy was Gerry Parsky, who virtually ran Simon's campaign into the ground."
I'd rank Parsky high up there, but Simon is still responsible for his own campaign. He did a marvelous job in the primary, ran a sunny upbeat campaign filled with Reaganesque can-do spirit, then allowed Parsky and pals to jettison the entire primary message, the team, and all the campaign's grassroots foot-soldiers.
I have little respect for chief executives (and chief executive wannabes) who don't accept responsibility for their enterprise's foundering on the shoals of ineptitude. Simon absented himself from the state for a vacation just as Parsky was making his first maneuvers. Bad, bad judgment. Many of us were screaming, but on this just as with the Hindelang problem he didn't want to hear: As an outsider who'd stunned the establishment with an absolute steamroller of electoral support, he needed to quickly move to consolidate his grip on the Party he'd crashed. Instead he went to roast on a beach somewhere. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Fatal tactical error. He returned to the state to find he was now just a hood ornament on Parsky, Inc.
So, I hear what you're saying, but Simon let it happen. Rookie mistake. Reagan would never have let his campaign get away from him like that. That's the difference between a self-made, seasoned union negotiator well-versed in the Machiavellian machinations of Hollywood and a silver-spoon venture capitalist daddy's boy too used to getting what he wants.
I hope someone writes a book about it. "How to Absolutely Pwn the Primary and Then Give Your RINO Enemies the Rope They Need to Hang You (and then Nay-Say Every Subsequent Conservative Who Comes Down the Pike Forevermore, Amen)."
To: EternalVigilance
But I really think he's a liberal. I've been drinking.
To: RebekahT; FairOpinion
FO certainly is one who can and DOES use his well working brain!
To: ClarenceThomasfan
We get to choose between sorta liberal, liberal, or liberaler?
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quite sniffing glue.
186
posted on
02/10/2007 11:06:20 PM PST
by
Redcloak
("Shooting makes me feel better!" -Aeryn Sun)
To: Old_Mil
A thread containing a news article is NOT SPAM!
OTOH, made up charts, crazy pictures, and the same thing posted many times over to the same thread/many different threads, IS spam and used to be against FR posting rules.
To: EternalVigilance
188
posted on
02/10/2007 11:09:43 PM PST
by
OMalley
(Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08...HI MOM:))
To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
I'd rank Parsky high up there, but Simon is still responsible for his own campaign. Parsky controlled the money. He refused to fund GOTV. He forced Sal Russo into forging Simon's signature on the Log Cabin letter. He specified Wilson/Jones as a campaign consultant, along with Ed Rollins of bogus photo fame.
I have little respect for chief executives (and chief executive wannabes) who don't accept responsibility for their enterprise's foundering on the shoals of ineptitude.
I've never heard Simon complain.
As an outsider who'd stunned the establishment with an absolute steamroller of electoral support, he needed to quickly move to consolidate his grip on the Party he'd crashed. Instead he went to roast on a beach somewhere. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
Totally agreed. He had enough of his own cash to keep that steamroller going.
So, I hear what you're saying, but Simon let it happen.
Yup. The mistakes of a neophyte, and too nice a guy.
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posted on
02/10/2007 11:12:27 PM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
To: Old_Mil
Hunter is a TERRIBLE speaker. As awful a debater as Hillary is, she is still better at a primary debate than he is.
Lazio was far better than Hillary, but she and the MSM had him for lunch. Duncan hasn't a chance of winning the GOP primary; let alone the presidency.
To: nopardons
"FO certainly is one who can and DOES use his well working brain!"
Thanks, it takes one to know one. :)
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posted on
02/10/2007 11:13:44 PM PST
by
FairOpinion
(Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
To: nopardons
Hunter is a TERRIBLE speaker. And you make a TERRIBLE pawn.
Grover Norquist should know better.
192
posted on
02/10/2007 11:15:05 PM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
If Rudy was President it would be no different than today. Rudy is personally a gun control advocate as am I. If you are from the NYC metropolitan area as he and I are, its hard not to be. But his posistion on guns is the same that it should be a state right. States rights! Thats conservative! So unless you lived in a bleeding blue state, your guns won't be affected and if they are, it has nothing to do with the President.
What has President Bush done that has affected gun owners either positively or negatively? Not much because the President in general doesn't really reulate social issues.
To: Carry_Okie
Simon is supporting Rudy, did you know that?
194
posted on
02/10/2007 11:15:39 PM PST
by
FairOpinion
(Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
To: OMalley
What on earth ARE you talking about?
Dems and GOPers NEVER have debated each other, during the primary season; NEVER! And provide a source that says that Rudy isn't going to Iowa and N.H.!
You appear to know absolutely NOTHING whatsoever about politics, so WHY are you posting?
To: Old_Mil; BunnySlippers
"In case you didn't notice, this is a conservative website, not a Republican website."
No kidding! Really? And I thought it's Hillary's cheering section, the way people around here keep pushing candidates who will ensure a Hillary victory and a Dem Congress.
But nobody can explain to me how THAT will further the conservative agenda -- all those find judges Hillary will appoint and the Dem Congress will rubberstamp.
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posted on
02/10/2007 11:20:48 PM PST
by
FairOpinion
(Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
To: Old_Mil; BunnySlippers
"fine judges appointed by Hillary" -- typo.
She will find plenty of socialist activist judges.
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posted on
02/10/2007 11:21:46 PM PST
by
FairOpinion
(Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
To: FairOpinion
Simon held a fundraiser for Rudy in fact the end of January!
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posted on
02/10/2007 11:21:59 PM PST
by
PhiKapMom
(Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy 08 -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
To: FairOpinion
No kidding! Really? And I thought it's Hillary's cheering section, the way people around here keep pushing candidates who will ensure a Hillary victory and a Dem Congress. Well, there's the company line from the leftwing of the GOP: to not support the leftist Giuliani is to support the leftist Clinton...even though Rudy admits himself that there is no discernable difference between the two of them on policy.
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posted on
02/10/2007 11:24:14 PM PST
by
EternalVigilance
("With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?")
To: NorthEastRepublican
"Rudy is personally a gun control advocate as am I. If you are from the NYC metropolitan area as he and I are, its hard not to be."
Hm, and just a few posts ago my stance on self-defense was being called emotional.
I'd love to know more about your reasoning for supporting victim disarmament. A more nonsensical policy position is hard for me to imagine, nor one more illibertarian. And beyond that, the Constitution isn't something to pick-and-choose from. It's the ultimate law of the land. I'm naturally wary of politicians who treat it like an a la carte menu.
As to Bush, among other things he hired John Ashcroft, who convincingly (and successfully) argued for the individual-right view of the Second Amendment before the Supreme Court. That was a watershed. Bush has been the most pro-self-defense president in memory. There's enormous institutional inertia, of course, and now is not the time to go wobbly with a President who isn't foursquare behind individual gun rights.
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