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All 435 House Members Can See Iraq Intelligence -- and Talk on Iraq Next Week
politico.com ^ | 2-8-07 | Mike Allen

Posted on 02/09/2007 12:29:41 AM PST by STARWISE

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To: STARWISE
This straight out of the Ron Dellums playbook.
161 posted on 02/09/2007 8:23:22 PM PST by dancusa (For liberals there is no end to their rights and no beginning to their responsibilities.)
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To: STARWISE

We are literally DOOMED! I can only imagine how many "leaks" to the media are going to happen. I sure hope this doesn't put any of our troops in danger, but I'm afraid it will.


162 posted on 02/09/2007 9:12:29 PM PST by NRA2BFree (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008! HE IS AN HONEST CONSERVATIVE!!)
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To: AmeriBrit
It's like comedy show skit....like "saturday night live" or "Colbert report".

435 clones of Homer Simpson consider the evidence

163 posted on 02/09/2007 9:41:51 PM PST by KTM rider ( " US politics is like a stand up comedy show, the tragedy is,.....it's real ")
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
-- P. J. O'Rourke
164 posted on 02/09/2007 10:42:24 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (I don't have any reason to be cynical, but...)
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To: CutePuppy
This oughta be a wakeup call for voters in 2008, eh, a "lesson"?

Ummm.. hate to break this to you, but the "voters" are far more concerned about who fathered Anna Nicole Smith's baby than our national security.

It is all bread and circuses.

165 posted on 02/10/2007 2:06:58 AM PST by Omega Man II
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To: STARWISE

We need to setup 'canary trap' style versions for each congressman, then out the leakers.


166 posted on 02/10/2007 9:11:40 AM PST by Snerdley (Pacifists are the parasites of freedom.)
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To: STARWISE
"It is critical that all Members of Congress understand the consensus view of the Intelligence Community on the gravity of the situation in Iraq and the consequences for U.S. troops and our long-term national security interests."

...this way when there's a "security leak", it will be enormously difficult to track the source. This ladies and Gentlemen, your Democratically control Congress

167 posted on 02/10/2007 9:12:37 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: Zeon Cowboy
And if there is something being hidden from them and the American people, I'd like to know what it is. Is that wrong?

Well golly gee why don't we just publish how to make nuclear weapons since the Govt does that an we apparently "have a right to know" every single little thing our Govt does. The Report names sources and means of gather information.

When this leaks, and Congress has proven itself repeatedly a total sieve when it comes to actually abiding by secrecy oaths, people will die. Many of them in very horrible fashion. Their deaths will make it very much harder to develop means of gathering Intelligence in the future.

The WHOLE reason the Intelligence Committees exist is to hold access to people limited so if it leaks the accountable party can be tracked down. Letting the WHOLE Congress sees it is a transparent attempt by the Democrats to make the pool SO big that when they selectively leak the sentence or two to the press no one can be held accountable. We are not a Direct Democracy, we are a Represent Republic. The Intelligence Committees are the selected The people do NOT have a "right to know" every single thing the Govt does.

The reason we want to Govt to sometimes withhold information for that is we as society have a RIGHT to self defense that is being compromised here in the name of playing stupid Washington DC Partisan political games.

168 posted on 02/10/2007 9:25:32 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( If they say "speaking truth to power,"-they haven't had a l thought since the Beatles broke up)
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To: RaceBannon
The White House could take steps to prevent this, regardless of the vote, the President has powers to do so, and he hasn't.

NO they cannot. The Executive is required to report to the Congress. The President cannot simply ignore the Congress. They are Co Equal branch's of Govt. I know this runs counter to all the rabid Bush Haters Holliwerid taught world view of American Politics, but the fact is the President is NOT a Dictator who can do whatever he wants when ever he wants to whom ever he wants for whatever reason he wants.

169 posted on 02/10/2007 9:34:29 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( If they say "speaking truth to power,"-they haven't had a l thought since the Beatles broke up)
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To: STARWISE

For a nonbinding resolution...

Un effing believable. You can't even trust the traitors (as we know), on the Intel Committee and we've seen them leak and give up programs and identities of agents live on CSPAN from the floor and leaking in the MSM.

I don't know what the hell's going on re: the hill.

These are the same ones who 'couldn't be bothered' to read documents leading up to Iraq (so they say). Next, they'll want CAIR to sit in... i'm sure they have the docs already.


170 posted on 02/10/2007 9:41:13 AM PST by AliVeritas (Stop Global Dhimming. Demand testicular fortitude from the hill. Call the crusade.)
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To: AliVeritas
I agree 100%. What just AMAZES me is that the Libs are lauding this as a way to irritate the "Neo-Cons"! Good Effing GOD! They just do NOT GET that this isn't a GAME! The only way they are gonna get it is when their own son or daughter gets killed by an IED planted in freakin Cincinnati, or Eugene Oregon or someplace else that is DIRECTLY tracable to this INSANE release of an NIE with intelligence gathering methods and other sensitive information that is going to make the work of those who want to KILL us EASIER!

Mark my words, AMERICANS are going to die because of this, and it is the fault of congress. People around the world are going to die unnecessarily because of CONGRESS! It makes me sick. Just sick.
171 posted on 02/10/2007 10:18:22 AM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: STARWISE
This is the price we pay for teaching the Republicans a lesson. And there is more of this to come because unfortunately the Democrats will be in power for quite a while. We are getting exactly what we deserve.

And to those who stayed home or voted the other way, good move, thanks! /sarc

172 posted on 02/10/2007 10:32:05 AM PST by quesera (Evil does indeed triumph when good men do nothing.)
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To: AmeriBrit; freema
"If all 435 House members are to be allowed access to Intelligence reports everytime they have a hissy fit, what use is there of having an Intelligence Committee?"

It would strongly appear that at this point in time our congress has reached a point where rules no longer apply to issues concerning national security. The long time honored, respected, idea of not allowing all to view classified materials but only selected commitees that then help guide issues, has now been cast out the door and replaced by a free for all attitude.
Idiots. It is like two parents agreeing the kids should have the keys to the gun closet, and then hoping the kids will use good judgement.
173 posted on 02/10/2007 12:58:00 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: Marine_Uncle
Idiots. It is like two parents agreeing the kids should have the keys to the gun closet, and then hoping the kids will use good judgement.

You can say that again.

174 posted on 02/10/2007 1:32:43 PM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: STARWISE
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175 posted on 02/10/2007 6:05:19 PM PST by b4its2late (Liberalism is a hollow log and a mental disorder.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Your answer is correct..........

"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
-- P. J. O'Rourke"


176 posted on 02/10/2007 10:40:51 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Pray for peace, but prepare for the worst disaster. Protect your loved ones.)
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To: STARWISE

This is totally insane. These people are going to get our troops kille, leak to the press like the NYT and others, get us killed and OMG the enemy in our government will have a field day with this.


177 posted on 02/10/2007 11:00:40 PM PST by Brandie (Support American troops and the IDF or bug off and stay out of my life.)
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To: ballplayer; mware; maica; STARWISE; Convert; clintonh8r; MNJohnnie

I apologize for my earlier comments in this thread. I was not in the right state of mind to be posting here, and I see now how stupid my posts were. Sorry!


178 posted on 02/11/2007 12:26:52 AM PST by Zeon Cowboy ("Show me just what Muhammad brought... and there you will find things only evil and inhuman.")
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To: Zeon Cowboy
;^)
179 posted on 02/11/2007 5:41:48 AM PST by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
To me, consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects.

Margaret Thatcher

180 posted on 02/11/2007 5:44:42 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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