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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
"Name ANY of these FFL owner-retailers who has done ANYTHING illegal or threatening"

"During a six-month period in 1990, Gustavo Salazar, a Type I FFL kitchen-table dealer in Los Angeles purchased more than 1,500 guns and sold them to gang members and other individuals. An ATF check on 1,165 handguns sold by Salazar revealed that only four had been registered under California law."

"From February to June 1990 Detroit kitchen-table dealer McClinton Thomas ordered hundreds of handguns. All of the guns were sold off the books, including 90 guns to a "big-time dope dealer."

They are giving legitimate dealers a bad name. They hurt the cause we're fighting for.

"Drinking and driving ARE overt, actual actions that are illegal and life-threatening."

Well, first of all, it's the illegality that I'm questioning. When I ask why it's illegal, it's poor form to respond, "because it's illegal".

Drinking and driving MAY threaten lives, sure. But simply driving threatens more lives, wouldn't you agree? So, "life-threatening" doesn't seem to be a legitimate reason.

Where's the actual harm in DWI? That's what I'm asking. That's exactly what the other poster asked about all the FFL holders. Where's the real harm?

Answer: There is none. It's an absurd question. I was demonstrating the absurdity of it by asking an equally absurd question about drinking and driving. Get it?

46 posted on 02/09/2007 8:24:17 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

You found two. Congratulations.

Out of 100,000 some-odd registered dealers. Note that the simple act of "registering " these two crooks did NOT prevent them from illegalling sellling their guns to (illegal/previous felons/illegal aliens/underage gang members) in any way.

Note that the act of "registering" these two crook did NOT prevent any murders or crimes committed BY the illegals/felons who actually committed those crimes. Nor did it help solve those secondary crimes.

Note that "registering" the dealre did NOT prevent the 1165 guns sold from NOT being secondarily registered to PEOPLE who used them in a crime. I would instead point out that the FBI/ATF FAILED 1164 times in that THEY did not follow up on the first 999 cases where a gun was old but NOT immediately re-registered!

... So what the he*l good is registering gun dealers if 1165 crimes are NOT prevented? Other than allowing the FBI/ATF to arrest Koresh-style legal gun dealers.

....

Your (repeated) drinking driving comparisons are not useful; 17,000 people EVERY YEAR are killed by drunk drivers. Really, actually killed.

Now, how many people have been murdered by law-abiding
citizens legally owning firearms?

None. Some murders have been committed by gun owners, but those (by definition) were not law-abiding citizens.


69 posted on 02/09/2007 9:55:26 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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