To: Southerngl
The following was taken directly from Rudy's lips during his Hannity interview,
HANNITY: There's a misconception that you support a partial birth abortion.
GIULIANI: If it doesn't have provision for the mother I wouldn't support the legislation. If it has provision for the life of the mother I would support
Think that pretty well puts that "he doesn't support PBA" to rest.
The link to the transcript is here
114 posted on
02/06/2007 11:26:24 AM PST by
Post-Neolithic
(Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
To: Post-Neolithic
That doesn't put the PBA issue to rest. It's just sophistry, and almost the same as what the all-out pro-abortionists want. First, there is no documented condition in which PBA is needed to save the life of the mother. The medical community has said so. Second, it's a tiny step rhetorically from "life of the mother" ton "health of the mother," which is a loophole the left has proven you can drive a truck through. Health then includes "mental health," which is anything a leftist shrink says it is.
To: Post-Neolithic; Coleus; cgk
"GIULIANI: If it doesn't have provision for the mother I wouldn't support the legislation. If it has provision for the life of the mother I would support
Think that pretty well puts that "he doesn't support PBA" to rest."
"If it doesn't have provision for the mother I wouldn't support the legislation" makes it sound as if he would support it if there was a "health of the mother" exception. The "health of the mother" exception is an old trick of the pro-abortion crowd, since that exception basically ensures that no abortions are banned at all, since the abortionist can always claim that the woman's "health" (which, pursuant to case law, includes "mental health") may be jeopardized if she has a baby. A couple of hundred pro-abortion Congressmen voted for a sham substitute amendment to the PBA ban that putatively banned all late-term abortions but included that huge "health of the mother" loophole big wnough to drive a Mack truck through. Rudy's views are simular to those of the most extremist of those pro-abortion zealots, who did not support the PBA ban when the sham substitute amendment was voted down.
232 posted on
02/06/2007 12:51:45 PM PST by
AuH2ORepublican
(http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
To: Post-Neolithic; Coleus
That's different from the current pro-abort view, which includes a provision for the "health" of the mother--in other words, whatever the "doctor" and the "mother" say is a health issue: depression, hangnail, heel blister . . .
If it included a provision for the life of the mother, even I could possibly go along with it. This is the position of many Orthodox Jews. It's permissible to save the life of the mother.
Plus it would put a wedge into the whole "health of the mother debate," even for non-partial-birth abortion.
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