Rudy’s a No-Go

National Review ^ | 2/6/2007 | Terence P. Jeffrey

[flashbunny]

have you seen the new one? it's on my page (rudy gun control #2)

[firebrand]

It wasn't just "motivating" urban cops. Rudy stood behind his police force 100%, unlike our present mayor, who called the police behavior in the Sean Bell case "excessive" force, before the grand jury was even convened, before any investigation had been started.

He also brought in the crime fighters from Boston, a revolutionary move that has been spreading all over the country.

[hosepipe]

[.. My sarcasm was ever so lost on you. Apologies. ..]

Sorry... I so love a sardonic reply..

[zbigreddogz]

Well, he makes this man feel a lot safer, that's for sure.

[ken5050]

Your point is valid. I did not mean to suggest that the iussue has already been decided, rather that IMHO, no other Repbulican candidate has yet shown the ability to unite the party and emerge as the nominee.. There are many I could easily, and happily, support..Hinter, Tancredo, as examples..

[airborne]

Well, he makes this man feel a lot safer, that's for sure.

Bill Clinton made people feel safe. It was an illusion.

Don't take this as anything personal, but ...

As a general rule, liberals tend to make decisions on how they "feel" and conservatives tend to make decisions on what they "think".

[ken5050]

You know, I wrote a reasoned, calm, analysis, and you respond with a rant that, more importantly, did not address ANY of then points I raised.

I was respectful, and am supportive, of the issues that are defining to you, yet I advanced the propositiont hat the national security issue is paramount in 2008. You chose not to discuss that factor in the upcoming campaign. Why is it so hard to have a calm, rational, discussion?

[firebrand]

Look past the particulars to the general.

It took the kind of courage we need to stand up to the Mafia. Rudy would walk right into their hangouts. And he did get them out. The Russian mafia has not taken over the San Gennaro Feast, the Fulton Fish Market, the private carting industry, and all the other venues he has made goon-free.

He also stood up to Sharpton and the other race pimps, to Arafat, to the lefty groups that were trying to bring back the Dinkins years. He stands up for what he believes in, period. That's funny about the anti-Mafia bloc, but what Rudy really has is an anti-jellyfish block.

[airborne]

With the exception of the "Pure, unadulterated BS" comment, I think I did. The natioal security issue is the most important issue. But all of the Republican candidates are pretty much in agreement with that.

But it's not the only issue. Duncan Hunter is, IMO, stronger on national security AND blows Rudy away on border/illegal immigration issues, 2ND Amendment, abortion and a list of others.

[airborne]

Sorry about the BS comment

[dmw]

I agree with you. Wow, you've been here a long time! :)

[wouldntbprudent]

IOW, airborne, why, for some, is "x" a defining or tipping issue, but "national security" cannot be?

Why is one "single issue" legitimate and a different one is not?

And please don't make a distinction based on morality. ALL issues encompass morality and moral choices and moral distinctions and moral consequences.

We can debate the weight to be given to various moral aspects of a political issue, but I don't see how the "single issue" crowd can condemn or dismiss single issue-ness ( or something like it) simply because someone may choose to stand on a different single issue.

[wouldntbprudent]

I saw your next post (to Ken5050) and thank you for your explanation.

[zbigreddogz]

OK, fine, if you want to debate semantics, I think Rudy would make me safer.

[ken5050]

apology accepted....(g)

Question: Did you see the Rudy interview with Hannity last night..(it's on YouTube..here..as well as the transcript..) wondering what you thought of his responses?

[airborne]

IOW, airborne, why, for some, is "x" a defining or tipping issue, but "national security" cannot be?

National security is the # 1 issue for me.

But it doesn't end there, it only starts.

Next for me is the border/illegal issue, which goes hand in hand with security.

Then judges, 2ND Amendment, spending and abortion .

In every one of those, Duncan Hunter fills the bill much better than any other candidate.

No politician can ever suit every issue with every voter, and it's up to each individual to make his or her own choice.

But when I look at Rudy, I see someone who is, while a fairly decent human being, not the best man for the job.

And I feel that I have a duty as an American to speak out and voice my concerns that he will hurt the conservative cause that I am looking for in the Republican Party.

[nmh]

Rudy never claimed to be logical!

He's a social liberal.

I don't care if he is considered a fiscal conservative. The U.S. is in a MORAL free fall. Would it be better if during out MORAL free fall we all had HUGE tax cuts? I don't think so. We'd just be a wealthy Sodom and Gomorrah type country on an even faster decline.

[Salvation]

I know that he doesn't go along with all the Catholic teachings -- but I somehow have this sixth sense that he will get the Republican nomination. What think you?

[jwalsh07]

Well, he makes this man feel a lot safer, that's for sure.

Did he make you feel safer when he supported Mario Cuomo for Governor?

[ken5050]

To elaborate and expand on your statement, if I may, it's my thesis that "national security" has, must be the SINGLE ISSUE that trumps all other "single issues"..( not sure if that scans well, but I think you know what I mean )..