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To: Sols
Oh, so HPV, a LARGER virus, isn't stopped by a condom, but AIDS, a smaller one is? I've heard that "pro" argument already. It's pure BS. "If I am vaccinated with Gardasil, there are still other problems that can affect my cervix; thusly, I still get a pap test just like you still get a check-up."

Name them.

If you get gardasil, you may THINK you are safe from HPV, and therefore will NOT go for frequent testing if you are sleeping around.

That is my point. Whether you get one yearly as prescribed, that will not prevent you from spreading other strains of HPV, or contacting other cancer causing strains.

The FACT that gardasil is being touted about as THE cure for HPV, is misleading. Women are NOT being told that this product does NOT prevent HPV in all it's forms, not even a majority of them. Only 2 cancer strains and 2 wart strains.

This FACT bring into question it's usefullness, and WHY this non- effective drug is being forced quietly through without discussion as a MANDATORY vaccination at TAXPAYERS expense.Also, it removes liability from the drug manufacturer and places it on the public. Smooth move from the makers of VIOX.

Take it if you want. But pay for it YOURSELF.

118 posted on 02/06/2007 10:25:25 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

"Oh, so HPV, a LARGER virus, isn't stopped by a condom, but AIDS, a smaller one is? I've heard that "pro" argument already. It's pure BS"

It's not the size of the virus, it's the method of transmission. HPV is not simply present in the semen, but in the skin of the anogenital area. Skin-to-skin contact of areas not covered by a condom can transmit HPV.

The CDC agrees with me, so unless you have some revolutionary evidence to the contrary, it's not BS:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchstp/od/latex.htm

"Name them."

Cervical cancer not caused by HPV. Cervical cancer not caused by the specific strains of HPV Gardasil prevents. It can also indicate other abnormalities and infections like yeast and Trich.

"Women are NOT being told that this product does NOT prevent HPV in all it's forms, not even a majority of them. Only 2 cancer strains and 2 wart strains."

The two strains that cause 70% of cervical cancer and the 2 strains that cause 90% of genital warts. And they are, respectively, 100% and 99% effective in treating those. Ye gods what standards do you have before something is effective?

Do you realize that you pay for the vaccination of poor schoolchildren every day? Hep B, MMR, polio. I know state-sponsored health initiatives are not en vogue around these parts, but preventing serious infectious disease is about public health, not just private health.

Psh, what a lark. Polio vaccine. I mean come on, polio hasn't even been eradicated yet. How effective is that?!


127 posted on 02/06/2007 10:39:55 AM PST by Sols
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