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Backlash Grows Over Mandatory STD Shots
Express-News Austin Bureau ^ | 02/06/07 | Janet Elliott

Posted on 02/06/2007 8:45:52 AM PST by Froufrou

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To: HonestConservative

conquered. Sorry.


401 posted on 02/07/2007 1:30:08 PM PST by HonestConservative (The soldier is the profession which permits all the others to exist.......Mark Steyn)
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To: najida; HonestConservative

No, the policians shouldn't run pharm companies! But, why are they making campaign contributions?

You can pretty much stick a fork in me, too.

"HOWEVER, the pageant thing is a 10 for me, and I'll post."

Sorry, is that for pageants or against? And because we differ on this I wouldn't score it either way. Time will tell, that's all. We agree on plenty other things.



402 posted on 02/07/2007 1:31:33 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

I hate pageants. Period.


403 posted on 02/07/2007 1:32:51 PM PST by najida (Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.)
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To: Froufrou

To keep the parasites out of private business! Who ever contributes less, gets beat up more.

Nothing succeeds like capitalism.


404 posted on 02/07/2007 1:33:21 PM PST by HonestConservative (The soldier is the profession which permits all the others to exist.......Mark Steyn)
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To: HonestConservative

It's not lost on me that viruses can be useful.

During the Exxon Valdez spill, didn't they use a virus to help with the cleanup?


405 posted on 02/07/2007 1:33:45 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: najida

To some extent that is what the CDC says about cervical cancer. Basically, there is a high risk group for cervical cancer and they are poor, multiple sex partners, and smokers.

I am for limited government programs, but I think it may be worth our money to provide this vaccine to poor women and also offer pap testing.

I just don't want the govt to mandate anything.

As I have young daughters (10), I will wait a few years before we really start deciding about this vaccine. I'd like to see what kind of side effects start surfacing. I figure that I don't really have to worry about it until they are around 16 (when they can drive and have a lot more freedom).


406 posted on 02/07/2007 1:34:37 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Froufrou

Virus's will be found to be the cause of so many of our chronic diseases in the near future and thus the vaccines will follow. Praise the Lord.


407 posted on 02/07/2007 1:35:39 PM PST by HonestConservative (The soldier is the profession which permits all the others to exist.......Mark Steyn)
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To: luckystarmom

I work with and see a lot of high risk girls. Many from 'normal' homes. Just normal homes with crazy people. If it were me, I'd vaccinate them for everything right down to bedbugs.


408 posted on 02/07/2007 1:36:36 PM PST by najida (Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.)
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To: najida

You obviosly have not read free republic threads about vaccines and autism.

There are a lot of freepers that are worried about the effects of vaccines and it has nothing to do with sex.


409 posted on 02/07/2007 1:37:19 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom

"it may be worth our money to provide this vaccine to poor women and also offer pap testing."

That reminded me that I read the minority groups [Hispanic and African American] were more likely to develop cervical cancer than others.

It still bothers me that it's all gender biased. A male's genital warts may not be life threatening to him, but they may be to his next conquest.


410 posted on 02/07/2007 1:40:20 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: HonestConservative

It's not easy to find virgins in the 11-12 year old age group. You are kidding me?

Even today, most girls are virgins until around 16.

I was talking to my middle school 12 year old son today about this vaccine. I'm pretty frank about all of this stuff, and he said most kids are not having sex in middle school and we are in liberal California.


411 posted on 02/07/2007 1:41:02 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom

Several things there,
I'm dealing now with a full blown AIDs 9 year old (thanks mom!) and a Hep C kid (thanks Dad!)

I've also played in more than one cemetary full of kids graves from the good ole pre vaccine days. And I deal with lots of autistic clients.

I guess I see things a little more long term.

Live is full of trade-offs like this....and I've yet to read anything that makes me belive in the vaccine/autism link.


412 posted on 02/07/2007 1:41:12 PM PST by najida (Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.)
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You're the one who argued that a girl being raised in a stable home wasn't as at risk either.

You asserted that the girls in State care got 'used' from a very young age and at various places and you thought this vaccination was a grand idea.

My reply, if I recall, was to the effect of how do you use the fact some children have suffered abuse to justify vaccinating children that came from a stable home and had never been 'used' in their life.

And no, I can't see how anyone would think a child in a stable home does not have as high a risk of contracting HPV than someone who was 'used' while still a child and became (I believe you said)a promiscuous 13 year old. More sexual contact means higher risk...period.

If you want to take that rational argument to mean I think its 'all about sex', so be it.

If you think it means I wish death and suffering on someone because they have sex in some non-approved of manner, you're sadly mistaken.

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So I up your ludicrous and raise you a clueless.

I call your clueless and raise you an asinine.

413 posted on 02/07/2007 1:41:54 PM PST by MamaTexan (I am not an administrative, public, corporate or legal 'person'.....and neither are my children!)
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To: MamaTexan

Stick a fork in both of us,
We're done ;)


414 posted on 02/07/2007 1:45:02 PM PST by najida (Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.)
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To: luckystarmom

Of course having multiple sex partners increases your chances of exposure and thus that of development of disease. Note that those children who have been molested or have started to have sex (unknown to parents) at a very young age, tend to have muliple sex partners, due to confusion. Even observent parents are often the last to know.


415 posted on 02/07/2007 1:45:31 PM PST by HonestConservative (The soldier is the profession which permits all the others to exist.......Mark Steyn)
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To: luckystarmom; HonestConservative

That reminded me one of the new product trials at Merck is for shingles.


416 posted on 02/07/2007 1:45:36 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

Yep.

Shingles is quite painful. It is the chickenpox virus that lays dormant in the CNS until later in life and then S
URPRISE! Shingles!


417 posted on 02/07/2007 1:48:28 PM PST by HonestConservative (The soldier is the profession which permits all the others to exist.......Mark Steyn)
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To: HonestConservative
I was referring to people who think like najida.

I was not referring to her blood relatives.
418 posted on 02/07/2007 1:49:25 PM PST by perseid 67 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: Froufrou
It makes me sick that I voted for that man.

Well, the choices were Larry, Moe, and Curly-ette.

At least Moe had his head on straight half the time.

:-)

419 posted on 02/07/2007 1:49:58 PM PST by MamaTexan (I am not an administrative, public, corporate or legal 'person'.....and neither are my children!)
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To: HonestConservative

Yes, I know. I had them twice. First time it felt like I'd scratched myself and looked like a rash.

Second time was pain city. Shower hit a bump and screamola.


420 posted on 02/07/2007 1:50:15 PM PST by Froufrou
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