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Backlash Grows Over Mandatory STD Shots
Express-News Austin Bureau ^ | 02/06/07 | Janet Elliott

Posted on 02/06/2007 8:45:52 AM PST by Froufrou

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To: Froufrou
After reading an editorial in the Rocky Mountain News, I'm skeptical about this. Because of relatively low cost but effective screening techniques like Pap smear, the incidence of this cancer has gone down to modest numbers. And the vaccine is very expensive. Is this to be paid for by the state or insurers or both?

Merck is funding the groups who are aggressively lobbying for this. It seems public health may be a camouflage for the feminists and Merck pushing not very public spirited agendas while no one is looking out for taxpayers and premium payers.

281 posted on 02/06/2007 3:52:08 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Froufrou

Oh, plus the vaccine is only 70% effective. So, it's not a lot of bang for big bucks.


282 posted on 02/06/2007 3:52:58 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Caesar Soze

I have no beef with you. You have an opinion that differs from mine. I've not been rude nor accusatory. I've tried to explain that I have reservations that could be nothing more than "my gut."

If you have no respect for intuition, that's your problem, but I've found mine to be highly reliable.

Posting off.


283 posted on 02/06/2007 4:19:02 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: colorado tanker

I quite appreciate your input. It appears some are unable to view all components of this issue objectively. Thankfully, you are not one of them.


284 posted on 02/06/2007 4:19:59 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
Sometime that good ol' bs detector works pretty well.
285 posted on 02/06/2007 4:24:24 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Arizona Carolyn; MamaTexan

"Not one person has thought to mention this is medically unethical."

Actually, if you search by poster, look for mama texan.

As was pointed out, the illness is not communicable in the public sense unless kids are fornicating in school nowadays.
And, it's not epidemic.

This is a disaster, ethically and financially and morally.


286 posted on 02/06/2007 4:26:08 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: colorado tanker

You know, some ppl forget the old adage,

"If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is."

This doesn't come close to passing the smell test. Anyone who thinks it does has stock in Merck.


287 posted on 02/06/2007 4:27:36 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
Here is the cdc page. Some of these Gardisol promoters would do wel to look at it.

http://www.cdc.gov/std/HPV/STDFact-HPV.htm

All types of HPV can cause mild Pap test abnormalities which do not have serious consequences. Approximately 10 of the 30 identified genital HPV types can lead, in rare cases, to development of cervical cancer. Research has shown that for most women (90 percent), cervical HPV infection becomes undetectable within two years. Although only a small proportion of women have persistent infection, persistent infection with "high-risk" types of HPV is the main risk factor for cervical cancer.

A Pap test can detect pre-cancerous and cancerous cells on the cervix. Regular Pap testing and careful medical follow-up, with treatment if necessary, can help ensure that pre-cancerous changes in the cervix caused by HPV infection do not develop into life threatening cervical cancer.

The Pap test used in U.S. cervical cancer screening programs is responsible for greatly reducing deaths from cervical cancer. For 2004, the American Cancer Society estimates that about 10,520 women will develop invasive cervical cancer and about 3,900 women will die from this disease. Most women who develop invasive cervical cancer have not had regular cervical cancer screening.

There are links at the bottom of the page for those wanting to look up more information to dispell the gardisol myths.

288 posted on 02/06/2007 4:50:47 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: msnimje
Would the same people oppose vaccinating children against HIV?

I can only speak for myself but I oppose any politicain or state actor telling what must be done or not done for my kids. I know that parental rights and resonsibilities are hard to wrap your arms around in this day and age but there you have it.

289 posted on 02/06/2007 4:54:47 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Nathan Zachary

I greatly appreciate your input. That some ppl here would just swallow, hook line and sinker, what these creatures are spoon-feeding is beyond me.

The trials are inconclusive and not nearly extensive enough. Up to 80% of the test groups had pain from the injection and the other side effects weren't nice, either. And, keep in mind that the test group women were 16-26, not at all like 11 and 12 year old girls.

This is a collective mindrape.


290 posted on 02/06/2007 4:55:18 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: Nathan Zachary

Over half of sexually active men in the United States (U.S.) will have HPV at some time in their lives.

About 1% of sexually active men in the U.S. have genital warts at any one time.

The American Cancer Society (ACS) estimates that about 1,530 men will be diagnosed with penile cancer in the U.S. in 2006. In this country, penile cancer accounts for about 0.2% of all cancers in men. It is especially rare in circumcised men.

ACS estimates that about 1,910 men will be diagnosed with anal cancer in 2006. The risk for anal cancer is 17 times higher among gay and bisexual men than among heterosexual men. The risk is also higher among men with compromised immune systems, including those with HIV.
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And yet, no vaccine for boys. Striking.


291 posted on 02/06/2007 5:06:55 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
This is a disaster, ethically and financially and morally.

Um..not to pick nits, but you forgot LEGALLY.

(grin)

292 posted on 02/06/2007 5:13:18 PM PST by MamaTexan (I am not an administrative, public, corporate or legal 'person'.....and neither are my children!)
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To: MamaTexan

I sure did! Thanks for fixing it!!!!


293 posted on 02/06/2007 5:14:55 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: Nathan Zachary; MamaTexan

Over half of sexually active men in the United States (U.S.) will have HPV at some time in their lives.

About 1% of sexually active men in the U.S. have genital warts at any one time.

The American Cancer Society (ACS) estimates that about 1,530 men will be diagnosed with penile cancer in the U.S. in 2006. In this country, penile cancer accounts for about 0.2% of all cancers in men. It is especially rare in circumcised men.

ACS estimates that about 1,910 men will be diagnosed with anal cancer in 2006. The risk for anal cancer is 17 times higher among gay and bisexual men than among heterosexual men. The risk is also higher among men with compromised immune systems, including those with HIV.
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So good I'm posting it again. If this were about containing disease, why are the boys not included??????????


294 posted on 02/06/2007 5:17:53 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: Caesar Soze
The "double standard" is based on a biological reality. Women are at much greater risk than are men. They suffer many more debilitating, life altering, even life ending HPV diseases than do men.

Well the women aren't getting it from toilet seats. If they eliminated it in men then women wouldn't get HPV, nor would "they suffer the debilitating, life altering, even life ending effects".

In any case, I do not think a vaccine for a STD should be mandatory for anyone.

295 posted on 02/06/2007 7:13:40 PM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: murphE
In any case, I do not think a vaccine for a STD should be mandatory for anyone.

Then why is Hepatitis B vaccine required?

296 posted on 02/06/2007 7:16:00 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble

Maybe some of us don't think it should be required either.


297 posted on 02/06/2007 7:19:27 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Jim Noble
Hepatitis B is easier to catch HPV.
298 posted on 02/06/2007 7:24:15 PM PST by perseid 67 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: luckystarmom

Count me in that group.


299 posted on 02/06/2007 7:26:02 PM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President....2008!)
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To: Guenevere

Me to.


300 posted on 02/06/2007 7:27:36 PM PST by perseid 67 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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