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Backlash Grows Over Mandatory STD Shots
Express-News Austin Bureau ^ | 02/06/07 | Janet Elliott

Posted on 02/06/2007 8:45:52 AM PST by Froufrou

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To: Froufrou
And, at $360 per series per female, it's not something that should have been forced on the populace by executive order, bypassing the legislature or a vote.

It is not. Parents have the right not to have their children vaccinated.
21 posted on 02/06/2007 9:03:15 AM PST by msnimje (You simply cannot be Christian and Pro-Abortion.)
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To: Froufrou
"Cervical cancer accounts for 3,700 deaths a year in the United States, including nearly 400 in Texas."

of which 70% MAY (important word) have been prevented by this drug. The makers of this drugs do not guarantee that it works. It only works (most of the time)on 4 stains of the virus.

100% may have been prevented if these women would have had regular pap smears. A much better use of taxpayers money would be to fund clinics that offer these routine tests, such as pap smears and mammograms which would provide early detection and treatment of cancers, saving many more lives.

It's also important to note that most of the time, a HPV infection clears up on it's own.
If people want this shot, then by all means, get it. But women should be warned when getting it that it does not prevent all HPV infection, and regular pap smears are no less important.

Making it mandatory is poor use of taxpayers money for a product with such limited benefit.

22 posted on 02/06/2007 9:04:38 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: VRWCmember
One of the issues with the media coverage and arguments is they don't tell you that HPV is not just a sexually transmitted disease, there are other ways to catch HPV.

http://www.wdxcyber.com/nvulva04.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/

Children can actually pick up HPV when they are born. There are over 100 strains of HPV, only 30 of which are known to be transmitted sexually.

I still am against mandatory vaccines at this point, but I think the other side is also misinformed about what HPV is.
23 posted on 02/06/2007 9:05:21 AM PST by mnehring (Virtus Junxit mors non Separabit)
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To: msnimje
It is. Parents can opt out.

Yeah, they can opt out until their school district refuses to let the child come to school until showing proof of vaccination. Or the school will just have the nurse administer the vaccination without the parents' knowledge or consent. Parental opt out provisions for mandatory items are typically onerous and temporary at best.

24 posted on 02/06/2007 9:06:11 AM PST by VRWCmember (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: Froufrou

OK if people don't want this vaccine then also legislate that anyone receiving public health assistance (Medicaid) cannot receive any treatment for cervical cancer, screening or genital warts at public expense if they refuse the vaccine.


25 posted on 02/06/2007 9:06:57 AM PST by CholeraJoe (The only Americans who need to know where Syria is are the navigators on the bombers.)
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To: mnehrling; msnimje; kinoxi

"The overwhelming majority of women with HPV will not develop cervical cancer. Cervical cancer is an extremely rare complication of a common infection.
The spontaneous resolution of HPV is common.
Most women who test positive for high-risk HPV will not be diagnosed with cervical cancer or a precancerous condition upon further evaluation.
The purpose of a Pap smear is to detect HPV-related lesions, including cervical cancer, and their precursors."

Kinoxi, you're being duped. Click on the link provided by mnehrling and get educated.


26 posted on 02/06/2007 9:08:37 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: kinoxi
If a form of cancer can be prevented/eradicated then I am for it. Me too. But this will not prevent and/or eradicate cervical cancer. If a patient and doctor consider this treatment to be a good idea (and in the case of a minor girl if the parents agree), then I believe they should have every right to use this vaccination. Make it available and let individual doctors and patients weigh the risks and benefits. Making it mandatory is a bad policy. Making it mandatory by executive order is a tremendously bad policy.
27 posted on 02/06/2007 9:10:07 AM PST by VRWCmember (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: CholeraJoe; Nathan Zachary; msnimje; kinoxi

Exactly. They are using hysteria tactics and that's just wrong.

Joe, you make a good point. There's an important correlation between health and people on entitlements.


28 posted on 02/06/2007 9:10:41 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
If you say so. The eradication of the virus should be implemented regardless.
29 posted on 02/06/2007 9:10:59 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: CholeraJoe

That makes about as much sense as saying that anyone who smokes should not receive any treatment for cancer, lung disease, enphysema, etc. if they receive any public assistance.


30 posted on 02/06/2007 9:11:51 AM PST by VRWCmember (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: msnimje

Well giving out condoms and clean syringes can help with that so lets do it


31 posted on 02/06/2007 9:12:02 AM PST by skaterboy
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To: VRWCmember

There are numerous vaccinations already required for most school children. How do you differentiate this one?


32 posted on 02/06/2007 9:12:37 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: hsmomx3

There are always side effects and fatalities from any mass innoculation program. For a large scale killer like smallpox it's worth it.


33 posted on 02/06/2007 9:15:01 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: kinoxi

"Researchers say that in the last decade it's become clear that about 20 of the suspected 230 different types of HPV are considered high risk due to their association with cervical cancer."

This vaccine covers only 4 of the 20. And, it's NOT 100% UNLESS the recipient is a virgin (never exposed.)

AND, the competition will have a vaccine within the year. This is Merck pushing for a patent and a free ride at taxpayer expense.

Would you want your child forced to have a shot that may give her PID for the rest of her life? It happened.


34 posted on 02/06/2007 9:15:36 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

Perry is a real scumbag, he takes huge donations from these drug companies and then lets the drug companis pretty much write the legislation demanding that all girls get this shot that just so happens to be produced by that very same drug company.

Perry should be in jail, he is no different than a drug dealer hanging around on the streets selling dope to kids to make a quick buck. Of course, the idiot Bush is silent about what is going on back in his home state of Texas, maybe the coke snorter Bush supports this kind of legislation, who knows... the guy can barely even string together a few words to create a complete sentence.

Folks like Perry are going to ruin this party, requiring young kids to get shots for STDs when instead they should just let kids be kids and tell the drug companies to go to hell.

And what is the point anyways of giving shots to kids when MILLIONS of criminal scum from Mexico are just streaming across the border and they don't have any shots, only shots those folks use are gunshots against our state troopers.


35 posted on 02/06/2007 9:16:25 AM PST by TracyTucson (Teachers : Overpaid and Underworked........ Eliminate > ADA, EOE, NLRB, SS, DOE)
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To: Froufrou

Are you saying that these vaccinations are actually spreading disease?


36 posted on 02/06/2007 9:18:10 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: TracyTucson

Nice rant. I really can't find anything to challenge.


37 posted on 02/06/2007 9:18:13 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: VRWCmember
Apples and oranges. We don't have vaccines for the diseases you mention. People who don't smoke still get them.

Organ transplants are forbidden BTW to people who still smoke or drink.

38 posted on 02/06/2007 9:18:16 AM PST by CholeraJoe (The only Americans who need to know where Syria is are the navigators on the bombers.)
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To: Froufrou
Exactly. They are using hysteria tactics and that's just wrong.

Someone is using hysteria tactics, that's for sure.

39 posted on 02/06/2007 9:18:49 AM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: Froufrou
Not only that, Researchers say that about 20 of the suspected 230 different types of HPV are considered high risk due to their association with cervical cancer. In addition, the HPV types associated with genital warts are now considered low risk because they are rarely associated with cervical cancer.

This vaccine only works on 4 four strains of this disease, 2 of which are cancer related, the other 2 cause warts, which go away on their own eventually anyways.

It seems to me that this is an awfull waste of taxpayers money to have a manditory vaccine which has such little effect.
It should be offered as a personal choice, payed for by those that choose it.
It may also give uniformed women a false sense of security, and they would forgo regular pap smears. This 'vaccine' may end up causing more cancer than it saves.

40 posted on 02/06/2007 9:18:59 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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