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You're throwing up a ridiculous straw man argument. I'm not voting for Hillary or staying home or voting third party. But I am trying to alert some of you to the evil you are wishing on our nation. The Republican Party is the opposition party to the abortionist, gay agenda, gun-grabbing, God denying, Democrat socialist Party. I want American liberty and our traditional American conservative value system to live on long after we defeat the foreign enemy. We cannot defeat evil by joining it. We have plenty of pro-life conservatives that we can back for the Republican nomination. We can't save the nation or the party by emulating the domestic enemy.

That, sir, is one of the best posts I've ever seen posted on Free Republic.

You're throwing up a ridiculous straw man argument. I'm not voting for Hillary or staying home or voting third party. But I am trying to alert some of you to the evil you are wishing on our nation. The Republican Party is the opposition party to the abortionist, gay agenda, gun-grabbing, God denying, Democrat socialist Party. I want American liberty and our traditional American conservative value system to live on long after we defeat the foreign enemy. We cannot defeat evil by joining it. We have plenty of pro-life conservatives that we can back for the Republican nomination. We can't save the nation or the party by emulating the domestic enemy.

Amen!

You're throwing up a ridiculous straw man argument. I'm not voting for Hillary or staying home or voting third party. But I am trying to alert some of you to the evil you are wishing on our nation. The Republican Party is the opposition party to the abortionist, gay agenda, gun-grabbing, God denying, Democrat socialist Party. I want American liberty and our traditional American conservative value system to live on long after we defeat the foreign enemy. We cannot defeat evil by joining it. We have plenty of pro-life conservatives that we can back for the Republican nomination. We can't save the nation or the party by emulating the domestic enemy.

My thoughts, exactly.

I wasn't referring to you, Jim. As I understand your motivation, you are playing devil's advocate, issuing a warning. But there are those on the right who will do precisely that: Stay home or vote third party.

To say that doing so would be a de facto vote for hillary is not, in my view, a 'ridiculous straw man argument.' Our's is a two-party system. Additional apparent options are exactly only that--apparent. They are illusions. We have only two real choices. D or R. And an R vote not cast is a de facto D. That's how the first clinton won. Twice. (The first time with only 43 percent.)

I believe neither Giuliani nor his motivations is evil. He says he hates abortion: (He dramatically increased adoption during his tenure as mayor. He says he will appoint judges in the mold of Roberts, Alito and Scalia.) He believes in the 2nd amendment. He is a proven warrior against evil. He is our best hope to get a handle on the war AND the terrorists to save no less than our democracy, our civilization.

Last night I heard a man of rare intelligence, humility, warmth, competence and leadership. We will be fortunate, indeed, and our babies, born and unborn, living and not yet imagined, will be infinitely safer, if he is our next president.