Posted on 02/05/2007 1:27:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
How about just stickin' with the Bible? That sounds like a plan.
Well if they actually read the Bible, there is no debate.
Well I see part of their problem right there - 'ya see it's that Druid thing that's confusin' 'em - they're so busy tryin' to find the right solstice angles and moon phases that homosexual is like the least of their concerns.............
"the real mission of the church: helping the poor, the homeless, the community at large."
What a poor fool. He doesn't even know the Church's real mission.
Somebody tore Genesis out of their Bible.
.....What of breakaway churches?
She's sad to see them go, but not so sad that she won't fight for their properties. "The institution cannot give away its birthright and the gifts that belong to future generations. Our desire to reconcile continues, but if (the seceding churches) would prefer to be part of another tradition, then they are welcome to go. They just can't take what doesn't belong to them," she says, leaning forward.
"The church's laws are broad but they are there, and beyond these lines you cannot go. Crossing boundaries has consequences."
Condemnations from Global South primates?
Jefferts Schori steers the discussion to the positive, focusing on the mission she shares with many of the African primates to address the terrible plagues of war, poverty, disease and hunger.
"We can work on these together. Human need is so overwhelming that it seems incredibly sinful to spend time" on church politics.
What she omits: The Anglican Church in Tanzania recently declared itself in "severely impaired communion" with the Episcopal Church. The Archbishop of Uganda said he wouldn't meet with her because of her stance on biblical faith and morality. ....
http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2007-02-04-jefferts-schori-cover_x.htm
So basically they're lying. Well that's mighty Christian of 'em.
L
Their troubles are all self-inflicted. Serves them right for straying from the clear teachings of scripture on the subject of homosexuality and every other "-ality" out there.
The good Reverend needs to go back and read Exodus, Deuteronomy, and Numbers. It can't get much clearer, and you just can't cherry pick the Bible.
So basically they're lying. Well that's mighty Christian of 'em.
Well, those rule against lying are in the OLD Testament (Ten Commandments), don't you see. They don't apply to today anymore. Geez, if we enforce that rule against lying, then we'd have to stone witches and sacrifice goats too, right? (this is sarcasm, please don't send me angry email!)
Wouldn't dream of it.
L
Exactly. Christian churches, who obey the Bible, don't need to weary themselves over the issue, because there is no issue for them. Homosexuals are no more suitable for any position of leadership in the church than pedophiles, rapists, or murderers - or even habitual unrepentant liars. If you believe the Bible, there's no need to debate at all.
Guess that means it is okay
John 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
John 7:19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law?
Luke 24:43 And he took it, and did eat before them. 44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
The real problem is that they have set themselves as the authority OVER the word of God, they feel free to pronounce it wrong or in error and they will tell you what it would have said if God was to re write the Bible today. In a Church I used to attend I wondered why the new "conservative" minister was unconcerned. I found out when, to allay my objections told me the Moses did not write any of the books of Moses, Oh... except perhaps the Ten Commandments.
He could not give me even one reason to defend this belief he was unable to substantiate his view in any way what so ever. It was what he believed as he had been told so in college.
All the gay clergy/marriage/rights crowd are the same they simply reject the Word of God so have no problem with scripture contradicting then. They just ignore it.
Too many church leaders feel more comfortable caring about "Mother Earth" and the environment and have left everything else behind (if they ever understood it to begin with).
It's all about the property. Otherwise, they would simply start their own churches.
She says as much.
I'm glad this is finally coming to a head.
It's time to fish or cut bait.
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