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Queen's grand entrance to bay [Huge ocean liner berths in San Francisco]
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | February 4, 2007 | SF Chronicle

Posted on 02/04/2007 11:41:11 PM PST by freedomdefender

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To: Tainan

I agree. A glorious sight.


21 posted on 02/05/2007 5:26:29 AM PST by trimom
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To: freedomdefender

Ah, yes, the QM2...one of the few queens on earth bigger and deeper-voiced than Harvey Fierstein.


22 posted on 02/05/2007 5:29:04 AM PST by RichInOC ("Could you make me a woman?" "Honey! I'm so happy!...")
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To: freedomdefender

So enormous to us, and yet a mere speck in the vastness of the ocean. Nothing man makes can impress the ocean.


23 posted on 02/05/2007 5:52:52 AM PST by Fairview
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To: Fairview
Nothing man makes can impress the ocean.

Except global warming... [/sarcasm]

24 posted on 02/05/2007 6:50:27 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it. - George Orwell)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
It's not a US military vessel so its allowed to dock in S.F.

Not only is it not a military vessel, it's a Queen!

< }B^)

25 posted on 02/05/2007 8:25:17 AM PST by Erasmus (Dog was I ere I saw God.)
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To: Jeff Gordon

QM2 = 151,000 tons and 1,131 feet long

CVN77 USS RONALD REAGAN = 97,000 tons 1092 feet long


26 posted on 02/05/2007 8:30:35 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

If I recall correctly, the way you measure tonnage is different for naval vessels than for civilian vessels. But I cannot remember what the difference is.


27 posted on 02/05/2007 9:50:00 AM PST by GreenLanternCorps (Hi, I'm the DREAD PIRATE ROBERTS! (TM) Ask about franchise opportunities in your area!)
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To: GreenLanternCorps
OK. Here goes, best as I can tell from playing around on the 'net. QM2 has a Gross Tonnage of Approximately 151,400 gross tonnes

CVN77 has a Displacement of 97,000 tons.

I have no idea how to reconcile those two measurements.

QM2 is longer than CVN77 (assuming that the measurement is at the same place (however that might be defined), but CVN77 is much wider (252feet, flight deck) than QM2 (147.5 feet, bridge wings). However, QM2's hull is wider (135 feet) than CVN77's (134 feet). Depending on where the length is measured, and the shape of the hull, that may add up to a much larger displacement. I think it safe to say that they are comparably sized ships (more so than I originally thought). Both are utterly dwarfed by the Knock Nevis, a monstrous supertanker. Length = 1504ft, beam=226ft, summer displacement = 647,955 t. I note that the Knock Nevis is not used as a ship, in the usual sense of the word.

28 posted on 02/05/2007 10:14:37 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

CVN 77 is the George H. W. Bush not the USS RONALD REAGAN which is the CVN 76

U.S. Navy - Carriers: List of carriers
http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ships/carriers/cv-list1.html


29 posted on 02/05/2007 5:29:10 PM PST by quietolong
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To: chilepepper
"i read somewhere that they actually had to jack up the bridge about 5 meters so the ship could get through..."

Naaaw...they lowered the bay for a few hours...(low tide helped I think!)...;)

30 posted on 02/05/2007 6:28:04 PM PST by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: quietolong

D'oh!!!

Numbers are the same, though.


31 posted on 02/06/2007 5:49:02 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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