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To: oceanview
Spector could have flipped on that deal.

Are you telling me that Arlen cannot be trusted to keep an agreement? You mean the word of PA's premier RINO is not his bond?

I'm shocked - SHOCKED - to see there is gambling going on here... :-)

And yet, you spend post after post trying to convince conservatives that Giuliani - his geographic and ideological soulmate - can be trusted on judges.

Really, you (and Giuliani) have no credibility on this subject.

And I guarantee you, if Bush had sent janice rogers brown up for SCOTUS - he would have.

Judging by your tone, I can only assume you would have supported such a betrayal.

If I'm wrong, tell me so. If I am, then why are you defending it? How can you possibly believe Giuliani is any different than Specter, ideologically? And, if I'm not wrong, then why should I not work to defeat you (and your RINO candidate of choice) in the primary?

He supported Alito because he was the type of quiet candidate that republicans can get confirmed.

No. As stated in post 208, he supported him because he made a deal to support him - nothing more, nothing less. The fact Alito is from Jersey (and Specter was on record praising him in the past) would have added an additional complication to any about-face Arlen may have considered attempting.

Not openly anti-Roe (no writings or other public statements), supports the law on the lower courts through stare decisis (as he should), a constitutionalist mindset.

LOL - as if a "constitutionalist mindset" is the primary criteria for Senator Scottish Law and his "Super Duper" precedents. Please tell me you are not serious.

Sorry oceanview, but after my 2004 PA experience, I (and many like me) am done with RINOs of all stripes. If the GOP want to hang its collective hat on "electability", it can do it without my support. Shove a RINO like Giuliani (or any of the other media-created frontrunners) down out throat in the primaries, and you'll need to go forward in the general without us.

But, of course, that is precisely what you want anyway.

226 posted on 02/04/2007 1:30:03 PM PST by Ogie Oglethorpe (2nd Amendment - the reboot button on the U.S. Constitution)
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To: Ogie Oglethorpe

my point is simple - if a guy like Spector can give us Alitos on the bench, so can a president like Giuliani.

we saw how well the conservative base in PA, did in returning Santorum to the senate. and Allen in VA, and Talent in MO.


231 posted on 02/04/2007 1:35:26 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Ogie Oglethorpe
"If the GOP want to hang its collective hat on "electability", it can do it without my support. Shove a RINO like Giuliani (or any of the other media-created frontrunners) down out throat in the primaries, and you'll need to go forward in the general without us."


^5! Some of us, more than others may think, stand on principal, and are convictions are strong and clear! THAT is what made this nation strong, and God willing, will make it strong once again.

The nerve of us, demanding integrity and values of our leaders! /sarc
303 posted on 02/04/2007 5:00:01 PM PST by gidget7 (2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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