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To: Alter Kaker; HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Annual deaths from cervical cancer (both HPV and non HPV)
3500

Annual flu deaths
36000

Flu is a tricker bug, but the vaccine is cheaper. You need a different shot every year, but the savings in lost time from work is enormous. That is why many workplaces give free shots.

We don't know how effective the HPV vaccine is long term, because there hasn't been enough time to do the studies. We do know that it doesn't protect against many strains of HPV, and that in some people it doesn't work. They push is to vaccinate the girls at age 9 or younger, when the studies that are completed show that the immunity is gone at times with in 9 years. So, at age 18, when all the free love experts say they should be boinking like rabbits, the immunity will be decreased or gone. I haven't seen the numbers for adverse reactions, and they will be some. One of the reasons that few companies make vaccines any more is that there is a few people who will get sick and die from an allergic reaction to a vaccine. I hope the good leader of Texas has realized that he just opened a liability can of worms.

I expect to see an increase in cervical cancer rates in a few years because women will no longer go to doctor for yearly pap smears, since they figure they have been vaccinated.
415 posted on 02/03/2007 5:22:01 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
Flu is a tricker bug, but the vaccine is cheaper.

Only because it's heavily subsidized.

You need a different shot every year, but the savings in lost time from work is enormous. That is why many workplaces give free shots.

And I'm not discouraging that, but what I'm saying is that the specific question, "Why isn't every American required to get a flu shot" is easily answered: because there just aren't the production or distribution facilities and methods available to annually immunize 300,000,000 people. Maybe there should be, and maybe some day there will be, but today there aren't.

We don't know how effective the HPV vaccine is long term, because there hasn't been enough time to do the studies.

We do know the relative safety of the two vaccines, and in fact the HPV vaccine is safer. As for the effectiveness, a new flu vaccine is created each year, and because of the time issue, trials are only extremely limited. I'm not sure why you have so much confidence in the continued safety and efficacy of a vaccine produced in an extremely short period of time (the flu vaccine), but not one subjected to years and years of clinical trials (HPV).

416 posted on 02/03/2007 5:32:12 AM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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