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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
WWRD, What would Rudy Do?

...as opposed to what would Rudy say he would do?

This comes from a publication that has earned my distrust for decades, The New Republic, nevertheless...

Rudy, Don't Take Your Love To Town.

This episode--using the most (in)famous right-wing, direct-mail expert in the country to put out a message completely at odds with his actual record to that point--said to me that his previous independent stances were matters of expediency, and that he'd flip on a dime on practically any matter if he felt the situation demanded it. And, for those who think one fund-raising pitch isn't evidence enough, consider this: The 2005 Giuliani said that he supported President Bush on the Terri Schiavo affair and would have signed legislation to leave her feeding tube in. What's the chance, Fred, that the 1995 Giuliani would have taken that position? The title of one of my favorite Elvis Costello songs answers the question.

Should we take comfort in Giuliani's "independence"?

8mm


528 posted on 02/28/2007 3:10:09 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Getting hooked on Court TV is NOT life support. Once again Living Will = Death Wish, as BykrBayb terms it.

I am not sure what they mean about "life support machines". Could it be food they were giving? Or water? But these days, killing or murder are not harmful, if a judge gives permission. Maybe doctors will get licenses to kill, like James Bond.

In this case grandma was denied the joys and euphoria promised by the Felos fellows and just had to lay there and live, darn it.

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WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — Did doctors resuscitate 92-year-old Madeline Neumann against her wishes, or did they perform life-saving treatment after she was found unconscious at a nursing home in October 1995?

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Attorney Marnie Poncy, who represents Neumann's estate and filed the suit against the Morse Geriatric Center and Dr. Jaimy Bensimon, told the jury that the doctor broke the Hippocratic Oath — the tenet that all certified physicians are bound to keep.

"The first principle of that oath is, above all, 'Do no harm,' and this case is about the violation of that oath," Poncy said.

Poncy said Bensimon and the nursing home trampled over Neumann's wish that she avoid a painful death like those she watched her husband and two daughters suffer as a result of cancer.


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Studley said a close reading of the living will and advance directives will show that all of the grandmother's desires were only to be followed if she had a terminal condition — and no known treatment could bring her back to her normal state.

"No one during her entire admission said that she was terminal," Studley said.

She told jurors Neumann also included language in both documents that stated antibiotics should be administered if she were found unresponsive.




Plaintiffs: Grandmother was kept alive for six days, despite her wish for peaceful death

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529 posted on 02/28/2007 3:31:26 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
Your instinct never to trust New Republic are borne out by decades of solid experience. And here we go again. Any publication that puts out a teaser and then makes you subscribe to read the meat of the story is -- not to be trusted. And a complete waste of time.

Who's the fundraiser, Richard Viguerie?

533 posted on 02/28/2007 4:43:55 AM PST by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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