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Dakota Voice ^ | 1/29/2007 | Carrie K. Hutchens

Posted on 02/02/2007 3:49:53 AM PST by 8mmMauser

I don't know about anyone else, but I am still waiting for Michael Schiavo to make a correction on his blog about what "actually" took place in Colorado when he went there (to the debate) to supposedly ask Congresswoman Musgrave one question and she and her staff supposedly tried to have him removed. He called it, "My unreal night in Colorado - with radio link" (Thu Oct 26, 2006 at 08:05:14 PM PST). I'll say (from what I read) that it was his "unreal night".

As I said before in "Standing up and Admitting a Mistake: Not Schiavo's Style?",  if four uniformed officers were around my seat, I would have some idea of what was going on. I certainly wouldn't be sitting in "duh mode" to only be told later of what took place right there around me, as Michael suggests he was. If Michael's account is realistic -- his response and reaction is not. Nor is his response appropriate now that he has "learned" what he was "allegedly told" is not what took place. One would think if he can't get the words out that he was mistaken, he could at least have removed the inaccurate entry from his blog.

He has done neither.

I'm also still waiting to read about, "Also, maybe tomorrow I'll post about my election-eve rally with Bill Clinton in Florida." (A real election impact by Michael Schiavo, Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 10:40:34 AM PST).  Indeed, I would love to read that story by Michael, since I read it was not possible. Not if he was implying it was the Bill Clinton that is the former President of the United States. Will be interesting to see what he says about that if he ever does.

If Michael couldn't get it straight what happened at the Musgrave debate or even if he spent election-eve with former President Bill Clinton -- do you suppose he might have gotten Terri Schiavo's wishes mixed-up as well? (He does claim to have a bad memory from what I read.) Makes one wonder. At least makes me wonder. Whatever...

I'm still waiting for the corrections if not the explanations!

 

Carrie Hutchens is a former law enforcement officer and a freelance writer who is active in fighting against the death culture movement and the injustices within the judicial and law enforcement systems.


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KEYWORDS: michael; michaelschiavo; schiavo; schiavomurderedterri; schindler; terri; terridailies; terrischiavo; terrisfight
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To: All; wagglebee; floriduh voter
Adolph Hitler, eat your heart out. These PP killers have the latest in killer production lines, Florida style. Wagglebee thread...

Sarasota, FL (LifeNews.com) -- The county commission in Sarasota, Florida has voted unanimously to authorize an $8 million bond for Planned Parenthood to build a new abortion business. The 22,795-square foot abortion facility will be built at 736 Central Ave with the money the county will issues by selling bonds to the public.

During the hearing leading up to the vote, Commissioner Nora Patterson told fiscal planning official Richard Gleitsman that the commissioners "got a lot of e-mails saying don't give tax money to Planned Parenthood."

But, according to a Sun Herald newspaper report, Gleitsman told the commission that the county would not be giving Planned Parenthood any taxpayer funds but merely selling bonds on the abortion businesses behalf.

Florida County Backs $8 Million Bond for Planned Parenthood Abortion Ctr

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1,341 posted on 04/13/2007 3:32:17 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
Some changes would seem to be in order. Only a legislator could imagine a rule that "ten days makes it morally right."

The problem is tough enough without that. When you have to use coercion to say that a hospital should, or should not, continue medical care, something is wrong at a more basic level. The "something" is socialism, and what we see here is the standard, unavoidable competition for resources held in common. In this system, the complaint that hospitals do not have limitless resources for tough cases is valid. However, nobody can complain about private medical care paid by the patient or his insurer (or by philanthropy at need).

1,342 posted on 04/13/2007 6:31:47 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> as a writer for the television show “Leave it to Beaver,”

The clean, well-dressed, well-behaved lovable Cleaver family would be unimaginable to young people today who get their moral instruction from rappers, vulgar movies, boom-boom cars, liberals and other effusions from the sewer system.

1,343 posted on 04/13/2007 6:39:58 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: BykrBayb
Although Judge Herman is a democrat and a big liberal activist judge, I think most on this thread will be happy with his rulings in this case. I have had several cases in his court over the years he has been a judge. The mother could not have gotten a better judge for her arguments to the court. Herman fashions himself as a champion of the underdog and has an expansive view of his jurisdiction and authority. Herman also has a tendency to pick a side in the beginning of a case and tailors his rulings to support his idea as to who should prevail. In other words he is an outcome oriented judge. Since Herman granted the original TRO, that is a good sign to the mother as to his feelings in the case.

Few judges in Texas would have tackled the futile care law issue as Herman did the other day. Herman is a publicity hound,and loves cameras in the courtroom. This could not have come at a better time or venue for advocates of change to the current Texas futile care law, of which I count myself among. The legislature is in session until the end of May, and won’t return until January 2009. This is the time when most bills get acted upon. This case is also unfolding blocks from the Capital and is generating much publicity. This will hopefully help the lege to focus on much needed major modifications to the futile care law.
I have discussed in other threads my concerns about the law. Needless to say, I find it to place an onerous burden on patients and their families, without the proper safeguards and due process protections epitomized in both the U.S. and Texas Constitutions. If some feel the Florida law is bad (which I do not), the Texas law is ten times worse. I also fell that the Texas legislators will be receptive to some needed changes to this flawed law.

1,344 posted on 04/13/2007 9:46:31 AM PDT by erton1
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To: BykrBayb
In addition to my previous post, Herman will able to grant one more non-appealable TRO in this case. After that he must grant a Temporary Injunction , if continues to rule for the mother, which is appealable. I wouldn’t be surprised if the attorney’s for the hospital try to make an end run around Herman, either through a mandamus or a direct appeal of a Temporary Injunction with a request for a stay of Herman’s ruling. This will not be the first time this has occurred to Herman. I truly hope that the mother can QUICKLY find a medical facility to take and care for her child.
1,345 posted on 04/13/2007 10:12:11 AM PDT by erton1
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“We will not be silent.
We are your bad conscience.
The White Rose will give you no rest.”

1,346 posted on 04/13/2007 12:17:37 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

Do you even understand that I am on your side in this issue. YOU guys have a strange way of making allies. Don’t forget politics is the art of the doable. Now is the time to act if you and your friends want any changes to the Texas futile care law. There are some people you are purposely dissing on this issue who could be helpful.


1,347 posted on 04/13/2007 1:08:01 PM PDT by erton1
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To: erton1
Do you even understand that I am on your side in this issue.

You and I are not on the same side of the right-to-life issue. You made that abundantly clear on another thread.

YOU guys have a strange way of making allies.

I am one woman, which anyone could guess from my username. I cannot make you be an ally to people at risk of being euthanized.

Don’t forget politics is the art of the doable. Now is the time to act if you and your friends want any changes to the Texas futile care law. There are some people you are purposely dissing on this issue who could be helpful.

And you're just the person to rescue us all? And all you want in return is our undivided attention and undying praise? No thanks.

1,348 posted on 04/13/2007 6:56:50 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
More today on Emilio...

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 A 17-month-old deaf, blind and terminally ill child on life support is the latest focus in an emotional fight against a Texas law that allows hospitals to withdraw care when a patient's ongoing treatment is declared "medically futile."

Since Dec. 28, baby Emilio Gonzales has spent his days in a pediatric intensive care unit, mostly asleep from the powerful drugs he is administered, and breathing with the help of a respirator. Children's Hospital in Austin, Texas, declared his case hopeless last month and gave his mother 10 days, as legally required, to find another facility to take the baby. That deadline, extended once already, was due to expire Wednesday, at which time the hospital was to shut off Emilio's respirator. Without the machine, Emilio would die within minutes or hours, hospital officials have said.

But the child's mother, Catarina Gonzales, 23, and lawyers representing a coalition of state and national disability rights advocates and groups that favor prolonging life persuaded a Travis County judge Tuesday to force the hospital to maintain Emilio's care while the search for a facility to accept him continues. The group's attempt last week to persuade a federal judge to intervene in the case failed.

County Probate Judge Guy Herman appointed a guardian ad litem, or attorney, to represent Emilio's interests and issued a temporary restraining order prohibiting Children's Hospital from removing life-sustaining care from the child. He set an April 19 hearing on the mother's and lawyers' request for a temporary injunction against the hospital.

"I believe there is a hospital that is going to accept my son," said Gonzales following the brief hearing. "I just want to spend time with my son. . . . I want to let him die naturally, without someone coming up and saying we're going to cut off on a certain day."............................

Fighting a futile-treatment end Family races hospital deadline that would pull the plug on their child.

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1,349 posted on 04/14/2007 3:14:30 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: erton1; BykrBayb; T'wit; bjs1779
Erton1, I am glad of your position on this awful Texas Futile Care law. I will give some background in a minute on why is is so relevant to us on the Terri Dailies.

First, a comment on why you must have miffed BykrBayb. She is indeed a woman, as lovely and feminine as she is passionate about her stance on these topics. But, if you have been following the Imus mess as is unavoidable if anyone turns on the tv for more than three minutes, you may recall he sealed his own fate in the beginning when explaining away his gaff and addressing his black counterpart as "You People." Calling us or specifically BykrBayb "YOU guys" flouts us similarly and gives an impression to new readers you may not wish to convey.

But back to the Texas Futile Care law. It was right here on our Terri Dailies that the spotlight got turned on. Andrea Clark was fighting the first fight we knew of, and her sister was struggling against an uncaring group to get attention on, of all places, DU. One of our Terri List happened upon the dialog and the rest is history. Our Terri fighters had been working closely with Andrea Clark's family, and with the others like Mrs. Vo ever since.

Last night, I experienced mild dehydration due to a late season cold. I tried to imagine what it would be like to be laying under armed guard for thirteen days while the guards would not even let a drop of water touch my lips. And then I recalled when she had cried out in horror as they pulled the tubes and we all who were there realized she fully understood she was being denied this sustenance. So I tried to grasp the matching of intentional cruelty of the prime killers with a massive system of denial that would allow this torture to proceed. How long would it be allowed for a condemned criminal or a vicious dog? This was a heinous crime allowed to happen.

If you are truly an ally, you will not be shifted by a perceived "diss" on the Texas Futile Care law.

The White Rose is our symbol and we continue in the spirit of Sophie Scholl to fight such wrongdoings.

"We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest."

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1,350 posted on 04/14/2007 3:46:56 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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This is excerpted from a letter to the editor by a Karl Quisling, perhaps a direct descendant of the notorious Quisling of WWII fame. (Sounds like he is, anyway.)

Since it is rambling and unformatted, I have snipped some phrases out of the center. It is telling on the mindset of those who drool over death. The discussion is lively.

.......................And it is YOU who is fudging the facts about a "fetus"! A fetus is merely parasitic to the mother at the time of most abortions and DOES NOT EVEN CONTAIN THE NERVOUS SYSTEM NECESSARY TO FEEL PAIN!!!! Those charlatans who would sell you that "silent scream" nonsense are the same type who thought that Terri Schiavo was conscious because her brain made her make involuntary movements beyond her control! SECONDLY; Late-term abortions (where the baby is actually able to survive0 are EXCEEDINGLY RARE.Yet the difficulty of getting an abortion nowadays ironicaly forces more pregnancies into the late term. Denying women an abortion is an odious remnant of the religious patriarchal mentality that "punishes" so-called "immoral, loose" women for being sexual creatures, i.e., daring to have sex outside of marriage. A woman who gets pregnant--in this mindset--deserves to have her dreams dashed, her life and livelihood sacrificed because "she DESERVES it!"!.....................

The Citizens' Say

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1,351 posted on 04/14/2007 3:57:07 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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It brings me smiles to know she is joining the ranks of the irrelevant.

O’Connor steered the conversation toward the controversy that played out through 2005 surrounding the Terri Schiavo case, in which legislators inserted themselves in the judicial process by ordering the reinsertion of a feeding tube that supposedly was keeping Schiavo alive after appropriate courts had ruled to the contrary. The case finally was resolved when the Supreme Court refused to hear it on March 24, 2005, one day after the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals refused to order the tube reinserted. O’Connor called the entire process “astonishing.” The fact that the Supreme Court refused to hear the case resulted in “members of Congress calling for mass impeachment of judiciary figures involved,” she said.

Chancellor braves storm to tour VIMS

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1,352 posted on 04/14/2007 4:02:52 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Wagglebee thread on a dirty little secret being exposed...

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A representative of a woman's group that educates people about the link between abortion and breast cancer says that news of a lowering the number of cancer deaths would be better if women had been told about the link. The Coalition on Abortion/Breast Cancer says there would be fewer deaths to report.

The organization points to a new report from the American Cancer Society that cancer deaths declined slightly in 2003 and 2004.

Cancer Death Reductions Could Be Greater if Women Told Abortion Link

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1,353 posted on 04/14/2007 4:07:16 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: erton1; BykrBayb; 8mmMauser
>> YOU guys have a strange way of making allies.

How many allies do you suppose you are making by calling Freepers "you guys" in both threads? How many by siding with us "in this issue" but not other issues?

You are welcome in Free Republic so long as you observe the rules. You'll find it less frustrating if you relax and enjoy the discussion instead of trying to "spread a little light," as I recall you putting it. We are friendly folks but we have to draw the line at traveling salesmen.

And the Gileadites took the passages of Jordan before the Ephraimites:
and it was so, that when those Ephraimites which were escaped said,
Let me go over; that the men of Gilead said unto him, Art thou an Ephraimite?
If he said, Nay; Then said they unto him, Say now Shibboleth:
and he said Sibboleth: for he could not frame to pronounce it right.
Then they took him, and slew him at the passages of Jordan:
and there fell at that time of the Ephraimites forty and two thousand.
-- Judges 12: 5-6 (KJV)

1,354 posted on 04/14/2007 4:20:21 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> in which legislators inserted themselves in the judicial process by ordering the reinsertion of a feeding tube that supposedly was keeping Schiavo alive after appropriate courts had ruled to the contrary.

Huh? This is totally muddled. The federal law a) authorized (but did not order) de novo review in federal courts, and b) allowed the Schindlers to be a party. Whatever the flaws of the law, let us be done with the ridiculous notion that it was a law to reinsert Terri's feeding tube. Better term it a civil rights law giving the Schindlers access to federal justice. It was based on Terri's rights being systematically denied at the state level by Judge Greer abusing guardianship law. Terri never had a lawyer and only once had a guardian ad litem who discharged his duty to represent Terri (Mr. Pearse). Greer fired him for it.

1,355 posted on 04/14/2007 4:35:52 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> supposedly was keeping Schiavo alive

A pity that food and water supposedly keep this writer alive.

/sarcasm.

1,356 posted on 04/14/2007 4:37:34 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> Last night, I experienced mild dehydration due to a late season cold.

Oh, dear. Tell us you're better this morning?

1,357 posted on 04/14/2007 4:49:22 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> I tried to imagine what it would be like to be laying under armed guard for thirteen days while the guards would not even let a drop of water touch my lips. And then I recalled when she had cried out in horror as they pulled the tubes and we all who were there realized she fully understood she was being denied this sustenance...

It is just this vision that horrified the world and brought deserved shame to America. Before, whatever our failings, we were always America the good, America the reliable, America the court of last resort, America, the people who sent help to anyone in the world who was hurt or starving. That beautiful ideal was shattered by the utterly cruel, unconscionable murder of Terri Schiavo. The world saw our "justice" system take food and water away from a helpless woman. The world watched us torture to death a woman who had done no wrong.

The world saw evil at its blackest. To this day it can hear the evil-doers cheering their killing and giving each other awards for politically correct murder.

1,358 posted on 04/14/2007 5:02:47 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> I tried to imagine what it would be like to be laying under armed guard for thirteen days while the guards would not even let a drop of water touch my lips.

Dehydration death can only be imagined -- and it is worse than that. But what is that to "world savers"? They think of their human brothers and sisters as so many disposable social units useful only for slave labor. They care only for their ideological systems and inflict hell on real people.

The Germans and Russians both inflicted dehydration torture on political prisoners simply by locking them in boxcars without food or water for shipment to concentration camps. Some inevitably died. Sometimes the boxcar was parked on a siding and everybody died a gruesome death. If the prisoners survived, they were worked to death. Prisoners at the Kolyma gold mines lie where they fell dead so many years ago, emaciated and frozen. They weren't even buried.

Ah, the brave new world of socialism! Our earthly paradise!

1,359 posted on 04/14/2007 5:11:30 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> ... And I can assure you I am quite "right in the head" ...

Raving lunatic.

1,360 posted on 04/14/2007 5:21:39 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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