Posted on 02/01/2007 2:30:56 PM PST by Dark Skies
--LOL. To be fair, I think you engaged in a bit of ellipsis abuse. :)--
To be fair, the poster I was responding to was trying to use JR to justify his constant berating of Giulian with his numerous long repasts from other sites and snide one-liners against other posters. I just wanted to point out that I didn't see JR's words to justify what he was doing. JR was recommending that we have a true conservative and motivate the base. Constant negative repastes will not do that. That will just put people off.
More and more people are posting to them now, in FAVOR of Rudy.
It's just the same old, same old spammer antis.
And nobody knows how many, nor what the quiet members think...yet.
Those here who say that they will stay home, vote fringe, or vote for Hillary ( and yes there ARE some who have posted that they WILL vote for Hillary! ), if Rudy is the GOP presidential candidate are few; very few.
I actually posted that myself. I think the poll was about the primary though. Whether that GOP fifth, would stay home, or vote for Hillary, or Joe Biden, or Obama, or Edwards, vis a vis Rudy, is questionable. But there is little doubt, that a Rudy versus Hillary electoral map, would look quite different from the Bush versus Kerry or Gore map. One major problem is Ohio, which is in a protectionist fit. The GOP candidate may well need to pick up another state from the blue column at least, say for example, New Jersey, to pick one at random. I also think Rudy would have enough traction, to grab Oregon and Washington.
Then WHY do you use the FR poll stats?
That's not fair. Spammy is allergic to google, attribution, and links. He cain't help it that the world wants proof.
Posters that post, and post often, on this particular topic, are not a very good sample of FR I suspect, which itself is not a very good sample of GOP voters at large. One Freeper poll had about Rudy in the negative by about a 55-45 margin.
Well, that's good nuff for me...toss Rudy off the ballot!
Where's that Duncan Hines feller?
There are sins of omission and sins of commission. LOL
Good job, nopardons!!!
I'm sure you won't hear back from the people who seem to be taking a little bit too much pleasure posting those pictures over and over again.
I didn't think you understood Presidential politics and obviously you don't understand football either. Winning is the end game for both. Knute Rockne didn't believe in moral victories and neither do I!
FR is NOT representative of the American populaces. It isn't even all that representative of Conservative voters; let alone just plain old GOP ones. :-)
How about a link for that, Spiff boy?
NOWHERE! :-)
ROTFLMAO!
You think that nominating a liberal will motivate me or the GOP base? Give us Rudy and voila (that's french) you've surrendered the WH to whomever the Dems choose.
Yeah....that's what was said about W, here in '99. LOL
nopardons says "FR is NOT representative of the American populaces. It isn't even all that representative of Conservative voters; let alone just plain old GOP ones."
Maybe. But FR represents core conservative values and Rudy, for all of his positives, represents liberal, East Coast values. His views and those of Hillary are very close. That leaves them far left of most conservatives I know.
Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.
Fox News Dynamics is the absolute worst poll service.
they were the ones who gave 2004 to kerry by five points. They were the ones who predicted 2002 was a debacle for Republicans.
Even predicted a disaster in the senate when in fact we have only a ONE vote deficit.
Forget Fox News Dynamics, they are the CBS of polling.
But, as I have observed, hawking this chart on FR just isn't very effective in moving hearts and minds. The percentage of folks on this site for have a rather thorough knowledge of Rudy's opinions, is probably about as high as those who claim to have a thorough knowledge of sex.
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