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Huckabee blurs Bush, Clinton partisan lines (Huckabee bashes Bush)
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| 29 JANUARY 2007
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Posted on 01/29/2007 9:18:39 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: HitmanLV
Reasonable people can look at the same facts and situations, and come to different conclusions. Reasonable people can disagree on, say, which toppings are best on a pizza. Reasonable people cannot disagree about things like whether the Constitution protects people's right to free speech or gun ownership, because there is only one reasonable position.
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posted on
01/29/2007 10:51:41 AM PST
by
Sloth
(The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
To: Sloth
I know plenty of reasonable people who differ on 1st Amendment issues.
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posted on
01/29/2007 11:01:23 AM PST
by
HitmanLV
(Rock, Rock, Rock and Rollergames! Rockin' & Rolling, Rockin' with Rollergames!)
To: HitmanLV
I completely disagree. No one, not even Bush himself actively defends his positions. Even though, when explained to a person with average intelligence, they agree with him on most issues. Problem is, when faced with a choice between a "genuine" liberal Bush-hater, and a RINO wannabe suckup to the MSM Bush-basher, most people will go for the real thing.
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posted on
01/29/2007 11:04:24 AM PST
by
boop
(Now Greg, you know I don't like that WORD!)
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Hard to believe that this is the same guy who headlined at the 2001 FreeRepublic Inaugural Ball.
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posted on
01/29/2007 11:09:51 AM PST
by
anymouse
To: HitmanLV
If W stopped rolling over for the democrats and started using his veto pen, his popularity would skyrocket.
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posted on
01/29/2007 11:10:39 AM PST
by
boop
(Now Greg, you know I don't like that WORD!)
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
You posted what I was thinking. I am fed up with these characters who think they will be elected President by being very critical of leaders in their own party. I may as well be at a "real" dem site than this one.
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posted on
01/29/2007 11:12:02 AM PST
by
MamaB
(mom to an Angel)
To: HitmanLV
It is possible for people to differ on the specific applications -- for example, exactly how far the "yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater" type of exceptions should go -- but that is not a dispute over the fundamental principle. The difference is one of degree.
If, on the other hand, a person approves of the McCain notion of content-based restriction of advertising before elections, they are not reasonable. They are either a fool (unable to understand plain English) or a villain (capable of understanding, but choosing to support evil anyway). The difference here is one of kind. The whole point of the protecting free speech is allowing non-government-approved political views to be aired. Undermining that purpose is not something a reasonable person can countenance.
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posted on
01/29/2007 11:14:53 AM PST
by
Sloth
(The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
To: Howlin
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posted on
01/29/2007 11:22:02 AM PST
by
italianquaker
(what are the democrats doing about there war now)
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Well, I wanted to take a look at Huckabee. I have and I say no, thank you. I am sticking with Duncan Hunter (up hill battle and all).
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posted on
01/29/2007 11:23:47 AM PST
by
James Ewell Brown Stuart
(I support the President of the United States and the war on terror!)
To: Sloth
The first amendment says 'Congress shall make no law..."
Where are the gradations of degree within 'no law?' "No law" means "no law," unless "no law" doesn't mean "no law." Indeed, reasonable people have reasonably disagreed as to what exactly this means. that doesn't make either (or both) sides stupid, necessarily.
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posted on
01/29/2007 11:27:05 AM PST
by
HitmanLV
(Rock, Rock, Rock and Rollergames! Rockin' & Rolling, Rockin' with Rollergames!)
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Huckabee looks just like another Goober.....well gooollleee
To: boop
I think it would help a little, but 'skyrocket' would be overstating it.
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posted on
01/29/2007 11:44:32 AM PST
by
HitmanLV
(Rock, Rock, Rock and Rollergames! Rockin' & Rolling, Rockin' with Rollergames!)
To: boop
I completely disagree. No one, not even Bush himself actively defends his positions.This is damning to the admin, not an excuse.
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posted on
01/29/2007 11:45:41 AM PST
by
HitmanLV
(Rock, Rock, Rock and Rollergames! Rockin' & Rolling, Rockin' with Rollergames!)
To: Conservativegreatgrandma
I can't find the transcript from this weekend's show(s) but here's an article which talks about him and his candidacy. Here's an excerpt:"...He also showed support for increased emphasis on art and music in schools and opposed banning state services for illegal immigrants. He is also strongly opposed to both abortion rights and gay marriage, which may boost his popularity with Republican primary voters...."
The link:
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7006290160
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posted on
01/29/2007 11:48:12 AM PST
by
jackieaxe
(Unsourced reporting is not reporting but a lie or a manipulation)
To: HitmanLV; MizSterious
I reject the 'electorate as stupid' mentality. They weren't smart when they elected Dubya and the GOP in 2000, 2002, and 2004, and suddenly became stupid in 2006.
That's a strange worldview and it makes no sense.
If the GOP performed poorly it's because they didn't convince enough voters to support them. This has nothing to do with stupidity. If a majority is taking a poor course of action, it's incumbent on us to convince them we are right. Indeed, if they are stupid, it should be easy to convince them, right?
Agreed. "The voters are stupid" is a lazy defense. I'd rather put the blame where it belongs - on the leaders who can't or won't get the message out.
I refuse to let the Republican leadership off the hook for the '06 debacle by using the "voters are stupid" copout.
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posted on
01/29/2007 1:19:59 PM PST
by
highball
("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Stick a fork in Huckabee, his candidacy is over before it has begun.
What I found interesting is the spin and bias in the article: "We could do worse, Huckabee replied, but the good news is that we could do better and thats why Im running." is not exactly "praise", rather stating the obvious (like it or not: Dennis Kucinich IS worse).
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posted on
01/29/2007 3:16:56 PM PST
by
wolf78
To: HitmanLV
Well, I think I'll come back tomorrow. I'm having a bad headache. I have a cold that comes and goes... very annoying, kinda like the Rudy haters... a pain in the butt, LOL.
See you tomorrow.
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Message to Huckabee, don't bother you're finished.
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posted on
01/29/2007 6:58:31 PM PST
by
kalee
(No burka for me....EVER!)
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Shame on him. Talk about a HUCKster.
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posted on
01/29/2007 7:05:27 PM PST
by
mombonn
(God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
To: HitmanLV
"The president enjoys low popularity these days, with no signs of life and no signs of bouncing back.
In other words, plenty of GOPers are alienated from the President, too. They get to vote in the primaries. I doubt Huckabee will do well in the primaries for a variety of reasons, but you can't dismiss the power of crapping on Bush for political gain. Look at McCain, who has been a pest for the President since 2000 and who enjoys a strong showing in GOP primaries."
Exactly!
I don't see why we have to be so intransigent about this. Sure, it's not a great example of determined leadership; but it's called politics.
And Huckabee IS a conservative. He's a former Baptist minister who's pro-Christian credentials are unassailable, not simply a political ploy to get votes, unlike some other GOP candidates who have pretty ugly personal histories (I'll just leave it at that).
Besides, Bush isn't the face of small government.
I think Huckabee is a good candidate. I prefer Duncan Hunter over him, BY FAR, don't get me wrong. But Huckabee seems charismatic and principled.
I'm also a fan of Brownback.
The rest I'm neutral on. Except Romney. Anyone but Romney. Please.
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