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To: ripley
Indeed, it is the ability to act at will and without need for justification within some domain which is the essence of freedom, be it of speech or of property."

Normally, I agree with Vin.
But killing these working men for "the principle" of the ability to act at will and without need for justification" is beyond rationality.

A new sewer line running under his property was a justifiable cause for killing?

without speaking to him, would you say he was "beyond rationality", insane?

He's dead, no one can speak to him, - although it's certainly wise to question the rationality of his actions. Insane[?], - I doubt it.

do you know all the circumstances that led up to the incident?

No. -- I only know the outcome of his irrationality about property rights.

do you know what the attitude of the "working men" was during and before the incident?

No. I doubt anyone ever will.

did all this happen in a vacuum, with no justification for his action?

No, it happened in the real world, where irrational bureaucrats drive irrational property owners into corners that should not exist under our Constitution.

it seems that he paid the ultimate price for his actions based upon principle.

His 'principle' about property was flawed. So was that of the 'authorities'.

to call the man insane is arrogant, callous and brutish at best.

You called him insane, not me.

414 posted on 01/28/2007 8:45:52 AM PST by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia <)
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To: tpaine

You have frequently posted to me "The question remains ..."

Now I say to you, the question remains (unanswered):

Do you support the GA law which is totally consistent with my position as I posted to you in #195 when all this began? I ask because you referred to me as a gun grabber. Does that mean you think the GA bill (which you earlier said you agreed with) is a gun-grabbing bill? Do you consider yourself a gun grabber? These questions need answers or the confusion will continue.


416 posted on 01/28/2007 8:53:11 AM PST by UpAllNight
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To: tpaine

One thing I've noticed throughout this (fairly long) thread is how many people mention the tragic murder of the "maintenance men", the "working men" - - it is instructive that not one single poster has noted with any concern that a politician was also killed in the confrontation.


422 posted on 01/28/2007 9:00:38 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: tpaine

"you called him insane, not me...."

"beyond rationality" intimates insanity.


one can surmise that the man who reacted so violently was subject to tyranny, the duration and intensity probably commensurate with the reaction.



487 posted on 01/28/2007 10:22:03 AM PST by ripley
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