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To: Luis Gonzalez
Luis Gonzalez insists that ~his~ rules over his property trumps our rule of law about carrying arms in vehicles.

Luis's ludicrous counter:

No, you insist that your gun gives you the right to be on my propety against my wishes. Something that most murderers, rapists, thugs and thieves agree witn you on.

No luis, you absolutists insist that ~your~ rules about parking lots trump our constitutional rule of law about carrying arms in vehicles. -- Dream on.

The Bill of Rights impose restrictions on government,

Our Constitution and its Amendments are our Law of the Land, and all of the people who live in the USA are bound to honor that Law. -- You and I swore an oath to that effect luis. -- Can you admit that?

I've substantiated that with the Founder's own words during the debates surrounding the crafting of the Bill of Rights, as well as in posting standing case law...which means that by your own definition of public policy, the Second imposes no restrictions on private property owners.

Your own sworn oath belies you luis. You swore to support & defend our Constitution - did you not?

Neither the Constitution of The United States, nor any State Constitution imposes the limitations detailed in the Bill opf Rihts on citizens. No statute, either Federal or State sets such a standard.

Dream on luis. You deny your own oath.

Property was considered a far greater right than any other right by the Founders; I substantiated that with the Founder's own words. They understood that without property there is no liberty.

Our constitution does not enumerate property as being considered "-- a far greater right than any other right. --" You're dreaming again luis.

Trespassing, defined as being on someone else's property against their expressed wishes, is illegal in every State of the Union; there are little if any limitations on what reasons private property owners may invoke to exclude anyone not bearing a properly issued Court order from their property, as a matter of fact, no reason need be given as to why property owners can exclude others from their property.

Bold dreams again luis. Your contracts for workers on your property cannot violate our laws/public policy's regarding our individual rights to arms.

What laws exist prohibiting employers from banning guns from their company parking lots have come into being during the past two years, overturning long-standing tradition, and are being challenged on Constitutional grounds. What you and the NRA are doing is in violation of the Constitution.

So you Brady Bunchers claim, as you disregard your own oaths to support & defend the 2nd Amendment.

1,036 posted on 02/05/2007 5:08:37 PM PST by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia <)
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To: tpaine
"Luis Gonzalez insists that ~his~ rules over his property trumps our rule of law about carrying arms in vehicles."

You lie about the issue, which betrays the fact that you have no issue.

The issue is not driving, you're not supporting legislation about driving, you're supporting legislation about parking.

The issue is parking on someone else's property against their expressed wishes.

You have no inherent right to be on someone else's property against their expressed wishes...so you lie about it.

What right do you have to be on someone else's property against their expressed wishes?

Answer that very simple question and you win this argument...but you won't because you can't.

1,037 posted on 02/06/2007 5:29:08 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: tpaine
Every question that I ask you are forced to respond to with an insult because you can't answer them with truth.

I'm not a "Brady Buncher", I'm a John Adams Buncher facing you Karl Marx Bunchers down.

"The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is no force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist." -- John Adams

1,038 posted on 02/06/2007 5:37:44 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: tpaine

I'm defending the Constitution from the likes of you.


1,039 posted on 02/06/2007 5:38:25 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: tpaine

Can you answer anything at all t?

What gives you the right to be on someone else's property against their expressed wishes?

You're pitiful, and your efforst have hurt your own crusade.


1,040 posted on 02/06/2007 5:40:33 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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