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Republicans 2008: Giuliani 32%, McCain 26% (Angus-Reid's latest)
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| 1/27/2007
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Posted on 01/27/2007 6:53:52 AM PST by Dark Skies
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To: NapkinUser
If you don't want Rudy to be the next President, some of the other candidates better get off the dime and get some attention. Hunter, Huckabee... They're good, and they're in statistically insignificant territory. They don't matter. It doesn't matter how great a candidate they are if they aren't going to be President.
All you anti-Rudy folks would be better off spending your time being FOR somebody than merely parroting the same few irrelevant smears on Rudy.
It doesn't matter what the next President will think about abortion. It's a non-issue within the oval office.
It doesn't matter what Rudy thinks about guns, if there still is no agenda for gun control. I don't see that being on the table.
Rudy is against an amendment to the constitution regarding marriage. Well... so am I. I don't believe in legislation via amendment. It's the wrong way to do it.
Here's how it will go: There's a lot of Republicans that are going to get lathered into a frenzy about a bunch of irrelevant things, only to make sure they stay angry because they didn't get somebody super conservative up within striking distance. Giuliani will win the Presidency by a healthy margin, and the right will have a bitter and angry component that will continue to do the ONLY thing we do so well: whine and moan and bellyache. But still DO nothing.
What will tick off some conservatives the most is that President Giuliani will actually be OK. He won't do anything about gun control or abortion or gayness because I don't think he cares much about those issues. He'll be fiscally sound, and a powerful voice of leadership in the war. He won't compromise there, and that's what I care most about.
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posted on
01/27/2007 7:41:00 AM PST
by
Ramius
([sip])
To: GoMonster
42
posted on
01/27/2007 7:41:07 AM PST
by
zarf
To: Dark Skies
43
posted on
01/27/2007 7:42:41 AM PST
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: Ramius
44
posted on
01/27/2007 7:45:07 AM PST
by
firewalk
To: TomGuy
The latest Pew Research puts independent/swing voters at 42% of the electorate. in 2004, there were 26%, 2000, 22%.
The research also pointed out that in the '06 elections, both party bases showed up in their usual numbers. It was the heavy turnout of the independent group that handed the country over to the Democrats.
This group of voters,(independents) are strongly moderate/centrist, they are against the war and REPUBLICANS in general and are very poorly informed on the issues. They also have a tendency to believe what the media tells them. This is why we need Rudy Giuliani to win in '08.
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posted on
01/27/2007 7:47:04 AM PST
by
PSYCHO-FREEP
(Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Oh that is going to hurt! You said it way better then I could, but it needs to be said over and over and over to more then just the 'NAPKIN'.
I started out neutral about this whole Rudy thing but it got unfair real fast. I do not make fun of the names of the other contenders, I will vote for Hunter or whomever gets the nod, even McCain, boy that would hurt. I am not going to take my marbles and go home in an infantile hissy fit and watch my country go down the drain.
And I am going to defend my conservative credentials, and I am going to fight back when the city I grew up in is ridiculed and I am going to fight back when they make fun of Italian surnames because I have one too.
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posted on
01/27/2007 7:47:20 AM PST
by
JimFreedom
(Pragmatic Common Sense Conservative - Too)
To: BipePilot
Watch DUNCAN HUNTER's progress. He's more like Reagan than any of the others. So far, he's the best of the bunch, but he is not viable, due to his lack of name recognition and his Buchananite views on free trade.
To: Ramius; panaxanax
How about ~here~ instead. :-)
[see 41]
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posted on
01/27/2007 7:49:15 AM PST
by
Ramius
([sip])
To: Ramius
NOW is the time for the debate over who should be the Rep. candidate in '08.
The frontrunner will emerge over the next several months and it very well may be Rudy.
If Rudy gets the nomination, the debate will be over and he will get the overwhelming majority of support of Republicans and Independents as well as a substantial percentage of Dem. support.
The Republicans who are now bitterly opposed to Rudy will vote for him or will be to blame for the Surrender in the War on Terror and President Hillary.
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posted on
01/27/2007 7:51:24 AM PST
by
Doninnj
To: Ramius
Spoken like a true North East Republican. What they consider to be a repub up North is what I consider socialist/liberal scum.
To: PSYCHO-FREEP
This group of voters,(independents) are strongly moderate/centrist, they are against the war and REPUBLICANS in general and are very poorly informed on the issues. They also have a tendency to believe what the media tells them. God help us, the fate of our nation is in the hands of sheep.
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posted on
01/27/2007 7:55:48 AM PST
by
JillValentine
(Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Cultural Warriors WILL lose in '08. Only a Centrist will, it's a political reality. The Democrats understand this fact all too well which is what has made them so dangerous. Yes, we need to nominate a centrist to win--in the tradition of the victorious centrist GOP standard bearers of 1936, 1940, 1944, 1948, 1960, and 1996.
To: DManA
Welcome back to the planet. A very large amount of factual data out there indicates that you truly out of touch.
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posted on
01/27/2007 7:56:02 AM PST
by
PSYCHO-FREEP
(Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
To: PSYCHO-FREEP
If you keep having a cant win attitude the that is what you will get. The idea that you have to get the undecided middle to vote for your guy by running a centrist scares me. People respond to leadership! The waffling grate center is more likely to come out and support a strong leader if you present them with one. There is no doubt the loyal conservatives out there like Hunter, but all the doubt is what the middle, undecided, fence sitters will do. It was trying to be like democrats and get the "middle ground" that has put the party in the mess it is in right now. Hunter is not a "culture warrior" as you put it. He is a man of principle that actually takes a hard stand and gets the job done. He had the fence in San Diego built, and spearheaded the latest law to extend it across out open boarder.
I do wish you all would quit warring about the fence sitters and stand up behind a man who has strong principals, and a history of getting the tough jobs done!
Go Hunter 2008!
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posted on
01/27/2007 7:56:22 AM PST
by
chaos_5
To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Cultural Warriors WILL lose in '08. Only a Centrist will, it's a political reality. You live in a fantasy world, don't you?
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posted on
01/27/2007 7:56:36 AM PST
by
NapkinUser
(http://www.teamtancredo.com/)
To: LazarusMan
Is your guy running against ~me~?
I don't think it's going to matter who we hate. What should matter is who and what we're FOR.
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posted on
01/27/2007 7:56:46 AM PST
by
Ramius
([sip])
To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Here's some news for you. Most of the people in this country don't live in Nu Yawk. Rudi hasn't seemed to grasp that fact.
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posted on
01/27/2007 7:57:45 AM PST
by
DManA
To: David Isaac
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posted on
01/27/2007 7:58:25 AM PST
by
Howlin
(The GOP RATS - Republicans Against Total Success (Howie66))
To: DManA
You don't 'think' do you?
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posted on
01/27/2007 7:58:50 AM PST
by
JimFreedom
(Pragmatic Common Sense Conservative - Too)
To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Seeing as how Republicans don't really care about the views of their candidates and Democrats don't really care about the honesty of theirs, we should just have Hillary run as a Republican. That way everyone would win. You would have a Republican in the white house and the liberals would get all of their policies enacted.
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posted on
01/27/2007 7:58:57 AM PST
by
nitzy
(America is a nation not an economy)
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