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Mars Is Warming, NASA Scientists Report
Heartland Institute ^
| November 1, 2005
| James M. Taylor
Posted on 01/26/2007 11:22:49 AM PST by Moseley
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To: Moseley
I say we dispatch Al Gore to Mars pronto with a copy of the Kyoto Protocol for the Martians to sign.
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posted on
01/26/2007 11:31:19 AM PST
by
T. Buzzard Trueblood
("left unchecked, Saddam Hussein...will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton)
To: Moseley
Coincidence? I don't think so! Yeah, no kidding. That big glowing yellow ball we sometimes call "the sun" appears to be warming up, and lo and behold, not just Earth, but all the planets in our solar system just happen to be entering a warming period!
And to think, we didn't even need PhDs to be able to connect the dots on this one.
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posted on
01/26/2007 11:32:02 AM PST
by
jpl
To: Moseley
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posted on
01/26/2007 11:32:11 AM PST
by
gridlock
(Isn't it peculiar that no matter what the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes".)
To: gridlock
Of course, cars have been on Mars since the Sixties...
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posted on
01/26/2007 11:33:51 AM PST
by
gridlock
(Isn't it peculiar that no matter what the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes".)
To: Moseley
OH NO!!!!
Earths SUV's are causing so much global warming that the heat we are throwing off is melting nearby plants!!!
or so the eviromentalists will claim...
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posted on
01/26/2007 11:34:16 AM PST
by
thackney
(life is fragile, handle with prayer)
To: andy58-in-nh
There are so many variables that a true scientist couldn't hope to make an accurate prediction of outcomes.
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posted on
01/26/2007 11:34:59 AM PST
by
cripplecreek
(Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
To: NicknamedBob
Bob! What have you been up to? ;)
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posted on
01/26/2007 11:35:22 AM PST
by
Irish_Thatcherite
(A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|What if I lecture Americans about America?)
To: Moseley
If all the estimates are true about the relative effects of forcings like the sun, black carbon, and greenhouse gases, then it is quite possible that we would have been in a sharply cooling phase over recent years were it not for these forcings.This is the thesis of the novel Fallen Angels, by Larry Niven, et al. Unbeknownst to anyone, the next ice age is being held back by these counteracting effects. When a totalitarian government run by eco-fascists bans fossil fuel consumption, the ice age hits.
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posted on
01/26/2007 11:36:44 AM PST
by
snarkpup
("If you can't run anywhere, become stronger than anyone!" - Lt. Cmdr. Lyar von Ertiana)
To: Moseley
Coincidence? I don't think so! I'll await the report on Venus.....
:-P
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posted on
01/26/2007 11:36:58 AM PST
by
Irish_Thatcherite
(A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|What if I lecture Americans about America?)
To: rocksblues
How about the Weather Channel?
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posted on
01/26/2007 11:38:50 AM PST
by
mad_as_he$$
(So many geeks so few circuses.)
To: andy58-in-nh
And I was going to suggest that a Congressional fact-finding boondoggle of a Mars mission be mounted to send Sheila Jackson Lee, Nancy Pelosi, and whom ever else is pushing the man-made created global warming hysteria to check out those facts, in person.
Any peroxide breathing life would be likely to send that crew back, since I don't think any member of congress looks like your picture.
To: cripplecreek
There are so many variables that a true scientist couldn't hope to make an accurate prediction of outcomes. Exunctly. However, people like Al Gore are perfectly comfortable.
To: Moseley
Uh-Oh! Instead of going to Iraq, we better send Pelosi and crew (with a one-way ticket, of course) to Mars to create a Mars Global warming commission.
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posted on
01/26/2007 11:40:43 AM PST
by
texasmountainman
("Find some place where the drinks are free and the pretty girls all love me". Kevin Fowler)
To: mad_as_he$$
Your correct, they must also run the story.
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posted on
01/26/2007 11:40:45 AM PST
by
rocksblues
(Do unto others as they do unto you!)
To: TX Bluebonnet
I read an article in the last month, forgot where but one of the guys who used to be on the dark side has switched sides and said the the BEST model they have looks at 22 variables. He believes that it could be as many 48 variables. Very telling.
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posted on
01/26/2007 11:42:49 AM PST
by
mad_as_he$$
(So many geeks so few circuses.)
To: rocksblues
To: Moseley
Publication Date: November 1, 2005
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posted on
01/26/2007 11:46:53 AM PST
by
SengirV
To: Moseley
How long before that idiot at The Weather Channel (Dr. Heidi Cullen) starts to blame
that on global warming?
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posted on
01/26/2007 11:48:21 AM PST
by
mhking
(I make my livin' on the evening news....)
To: texasmountainman
Dont even need a one way ticket just barely enough fuel to get out of Earth atmosphere.
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posted on
01/26/2007 11:49:54 AM PST
by
Bailee
To: SengirV; Moseley
Likely the article I've linked to most on FR:
Global warming on Mars?
Go to the above link for embedded links.
Excerpts:
"Globally, the mean temperature of the Martian atmosphere is particularly sensitive to the strength and duration of hemispheric dust storms, (see for example here and here). Large scale dust storms change the atmospheric opacity and convection; as always when comparing mean temperatures, the altitude at which the measurement is made matters, but to the extent it is sensible to speak of a mean temperature for Mars, the evidence is for significant cooling from the 1970's, when Viking made measurements, compared to current temperatures. However, this is essentially due to large scale dust storms that were common back then, compared to a lower level of storminess now. The mean temperature on Mars, averaged over the Martian year can change by many degrees from year to year, depending on how active large scale dust storms are."
and
"In 2001, Malin et al published a short article in Science (subscription required) discussing MGS data showing a rapid shrinkage of the South Polar Cap. Recently, the MGS team had a press release discussing more recent data showing the trend had continued. MGS 2001 press release MGS 2005 press release. The shrinkage of the Martian South Polar Cap is almost certainly a regional climate change, and is not any indication of global warming trends in the Martian atmosphere. Colaprete et al in Nature 2005 (subscription required) showed, using the Mars GCM, that the south polar climate is unstable due to the peculiar topography near the pole, and the current configuration is on the instability border; we therefore expect to see rapid changes in ice cover as the regional climate transits between the unstable states."
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