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Nifong has more charges against him
Fox News Alert | 1/24/07 | FoxRun

Posted on 01/24/2007 6:38:29 AM PST by FoxRun

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To: abb

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1169785864...=googlenews_wsj

Duke President Urged Caution on Scandal
January 26, 2007; Page B6
In "The Michael Nifong Scandal" (editorial page, January 11), Dorothy Rabinowitz raises compelling criticisms of how the Durham, N.C. district attorney has handled the prosecution of the three Duke University students. The commentary also criticized Duke President Richard Broadhead for not speaking to the fundamental principle of a presumption of innocence until some seven months after the incident. President Brodhead, in his first public statement in the days following the alleged incident, urged that the students must be presumed innocent until proven otherwise -- an assertion he has made clearly and repeatedly in numerous subsequent communications to faculty, students, alumni and others.

As he told "60 Minutes: in August, ". . . my view is that the DA's case will be on trial as much as our players will be on trial." His statements have been reported widely. His comment with "60 Minutes" is still on its website, just as many of his other statements remain available on Duke's Web site.

John F. Burness
Senior Vice President
Public Affairs and Government Relations
Duke University
Durham, S.C.


281 posted on 01/26/2007 2:14:42 AM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: JLS

E & J apply to disciplinary directives already handed down in prior decisions concerning the lawyer at issue. I don't think H applies because the victims - Duke boys - have adequate counsel, are free on bail, not incapacitated, feeble-minded, unfamiliar with the language, or so young or so old or so uneducated that they could not grasp what was happening to them. Besides that, I think it would more commonly apply to representation of a client. The NC Rules are adopted exactly from the ABA model and, although I don't think "vulnerability" is actually defined, my understanding is that it usually applies to such things as I've mentioned. But CA (where I am) has its own Rules (not the ABA model) that don't specifically include the subject, so I'm not sure.


282 posted on 01/26/2007 2:39:00 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: JLS

If Nifong tries to throw all that nonsense at the committee, they will be more PO'd than they are now. He might be able to try B, C & D with a straight face but, realistically, the only mitigating factors with merit for him are A, G & L (L, if he can bring himself to express remorse). He might try E by telling yet more lies to cover his earlier lie to the committee since lying to cover previous lies is his established pattern, but if his lawyer is smart he won't allow it.


283 posted on 01/26/2007 2:48:28 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

So DPD spent 30 minutes on the call and never rolled their fat behinds out of the patrol cars.

Nice work, boys. Back to the doughnut shop for another break. You deserve it.

They never made it over to building 1100 in that 30 minutes? Cops know or should know that the sound of shots fired in or around multiple buildings bounce and are hard to place, especially for a layperson passing by or inside another building. This is "Shots fired 101".

Lazy bastards.


284 posted on 01/26/2007 2:55:29 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: abb

They'll make a much bigger deal out of the "hate" aspect of this than they have the muzzie who tried to kill a bunch of students with his vehicle at UNC because they're Americans.


285 posted on 01/26/2007 2:58:17 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: abb

Circling the wagons.


286 posted on 01/26/2007 3:01:27 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: xoxoxox

Sounds like Tracey Cline is publicly auditioning for the upcoming DA opening. Easley passed over her last time, choosing the more senior Nifong.


287 posted on 01/26/2007 3:56:23 AM PST by GAgal
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To: Jezebelle

They never stop surprising us. I would think they would have covered the entire complex. They had no idea where the sound of those bullets originated. She was out in the OPEN. Incredible.


288 posted on 01/26/2007 5:28:08 AM PST by Sue Perkick (...what I was born to do, don't have to think it through.....)
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To: gopheraj

mark


289 posted on 01/26/2007 6:27:25 AM PST by gopheraj
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To: JLS
You'd think that Nifong would be smart enough not to advance multiple mitigation claims that don't even pass the smell test, but his past MO illustrates that he will try just about anything if he thinks he can get away with it. He certainly deserves to have all such claims blow up in his face.
290 posted on 01/26/2007 7:48:45 AM PST by Bitter Bierce
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To: Jezebelle

I read E&J again. I think they pretty clearly include the current case. Certainly it is against the rules to lie to the committee in this case and he broke that rule. Certainly he has been indifferent to making restitution.

As for H, you make a good case for it not applying. On the other hand were these poor black kids or poor elderly victims who scraped together bail money, but were only well represented because the ACLU of my youth took there case or some good lawyer took their case pro bono, would H not apply here either? These guys are young and POOR. They are depending on the generousity of others to pay for their representation. Sure it is their parent, BUT THEY ARE STILL POOR. Because others who happened to be related to them stepped forward to help them, everyone forgets that in this case [unless one has a trust fund we have not heard about] the defendants essentially have nothing.


291 posted on 01/26/2007 8:03:09 AM PST by JLS
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To: All

Link to new thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1773908/posts


292 posted on 01/26/2007 8:05:45 AM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: Bitter Bierce; Jezebelle

I agree Nifong deserves to have his claims blow up in his face. And maybe I should have said Nifong will claim all these mitigating factors to his attorney who will not say such stupid things on his behalf in the hearing?

But really, I doubt we ever have a hearing. The next two things to happen in this situation in some order is for the charges to be dropped and Nifong to cop his plea. Nifong can not afford to have a public hearing about his behavior. He is nailed dead to right.

As someone predicted here long ago, Nifong is going take a disability retirement, slink away, default on civil liability and hope that no federal criminal charges come his way. He is truly insane so he is more apt to claim his cancer is back or some other physical malady than mental. [The crazy seemingly never claim to be crazy and fight tooth and nail against being labeled crazy.] But he will need a rationalization that fighting this is not worth it. And since he will be "sick" he will give up his law license since he can't use it anyway. And certainly if he gets good advice at all, it has to be to avoid a losing public hearing that will further damage him.


293 posted on 01/26/2007 8:15:24 AM PST by JLS
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To: JLS
E, H, and J might be pushing it, but all the others you mentioned pretty much appear to be locks, at least based on what we know at this point. If they do it right, the State Bar will probably want to play it safe and only argue the aggravators that are clearly applicable and can't possibly be plausibly denied, thereby coming off as more reasonable as Nifong.

I think it will be interesting to see whether Nifong ultimately takes a hard-line, scorched-earth, "I did absolutely nothing wrong"-type position or throws himself under the fully-loaded bus that is speeding toward him and begs for mercy. If he takes the hard-line approach he already seems to have adopted in large part, he risks losing everything. If he takes the "I'm a poor, pathetic wretch" tack, complete with a carefully negotiated set of stipulated facts to avoid the humiliation of a public trial, he risks having the disciplinary committee reach a different conclusion than he'd like as to the severity of the appropriate punishment. And if he tries something in between, he runs the risk of finding himself in no man's land, with absolutely no certainty of the outcome.

No matter what, I'd hate to be in his shoes (or his bath robe) right now.

294 posted on 01/26/2007 8:35:29 AM PST by Bitter Bierce
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To: JLS
Agreed. There is something strangely satisfying about the prospect of a corrupt DA copping a plea on himself, don't you think?
295 posted on 01/26/2007 8:45:01 AM PST by Bitter Bierce
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To: Bitter Bierce
There is something strangely satisfying about the prospect of a corrupt DA copping a plea on himself, don't you think?

This certainly will be satisfying. I would not mind a full public hearing, but getting him out of office fast might make it worth it. I wonder if he might resign today.

BTW, there is a new thread and I hope we can take this discussion there. You may even find it necessary to post the aggrevating and mitigating circumstances on the new thread, if this discussion goes on.
296 posted on 01/26/2007 9:14:37 AM PST by JLS
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Are you sure this is really Wanda, and not Precious or her cousin?


297 posted on 01/26/2007 10:02:48 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: JLS

Thanks for the heads up on the new thread, JLS. Where is it, and how do I know when the main thread has migrated? This happens to me all the time; usually I'm the last one, posting to stragglers like me!


298 posted on 01/26/2007 10:04:29 AM PST by Bitter Bierce
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To: TommyDale

Precious has many names.....


299 posted on 01/26/2007 10:26:37 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Remember the one they called "Sha-Nay-Nay"?


300 posted on 01/26/2007 10:47:12 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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