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To: zook
So all the social, political, and economic liberalization going on in China is "just clever trick! Fool White Devil!"

You said it, I didn't.

You seem to only be able to respond with cold war propaganda.

Not propaganda. Facts. Facts that undoes your little spiel.

Certainly someone in China can find similarly threatening words written by some American military thinkers.

Nuts. This wasn't a mere military thinker. This was their equivalent of "king of the mountain".

China does not wish to rule the world or even to spread "communism."

B.S. Chavez and Castro are pretty happy with Communist China's faithfulness to its ideology...which is apparently more nuanced than you can quite discern.

China, I assume, does wish to have a sphere of influence in Asia and wishes the US to desist from challenging that sphere.

Yup. Stay out of our "lebensraum".

Not quite so innocuous or non-threatening as you imply. Your escalating shrillness to apologize for their Chi-Comm regimes implies that you have been coopted.

This kind of clash can certainly be handled diplomatically over time and I look forward to the day when China-US relationships are not so unlike those we maintain with most of the world's other republics.

Dream on. So long as the Chi-Comms are not toppled, it will never be a safe or normal "relationship".

As I said before, war with China is unthinkable and unwinnable.

Except and unless the Chinese think they can win. Then its okay, eh?

Fortunately, most American leaders now realize this.

Oh, so now you are advocating American "acceptance of the inevitable"? Thus, you migrate from being appeasement advocate to an outright collaborator.

Pardon me if we reject your policy advice on China and the condition of thinking of most "American" leaders...and you seem to forget who really runs this country. And it isn't those "leaders". Its the People. And they apparently have more gut-sense what is going on than the ivory-tower dupes who get fat teaching contracts in Communist China.

I will leave you with a pertinent conservative lesson on our Constitutional Government framework, which you apparently never learned, and given by the best teacher we have had in my lifetime:

Ours was the first revolution in the history of mankind that truly reversed the course of government, and with three little words: "We the people." "We the people" tell the government what to do, it doesn't tell us. "We the people" are the driver, the government is the car. And we decide where it should go, and by what route, and how fast. Almost all the world's constitutions are documents in which governments tell the people what their privileges are. Our Constitution is a document in which "We the people" tell the government what it is allowed to do. "We the people" are free. This belief has been the underlying basis for everything I've tried to do these past eight years.
Ronald Reagan, Farewell Address, January 11, 1989

54 posted on 01/24/2007 1:15:48 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Paul Ross

Your posts are total bullsh*t and, though easily refutable (for example, Castro, I'm sure, is also quite satisfied with Canadian socialism), it would take too much of my valuable time to respond further to your paranoia.

But just to rub it in, I'll finish by saying that China is a great nation and it's in both our nations' interests to live in peaceful partnership.


55 posted on 01/24/2007 3:12:58 PM PST by zook (America going insane - "Do you read Sutter Caine?)
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