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To: Halls
You might want to wait until the full story comes out. While Bill was obviously trying to prove he is not PC, there is still some odd things in this case. I am interested to find out if and how this perv kidnapped and manipulated the boy so he stayed for 4 years. What hold did he have over him, or was it something else. I also want to know if the boy played any part in the recent abduction.
10 posted on 01/19/2007 11:47:14 AM PST by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: MPJackal
What's public knowledge is the guy told him if he ever tried to contact his parents he wold kill him, and he had the guns to do it with.

The blame the victim crowd should just give it a rest until the whole story comes out. He is obviously very happy to be reunited with his family.

22 posted on 01/19/2007 11:55:51 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: MPJackal
I also want to know if the boy played any part in the recent abduction.

Why do you think there are age of consent laws? A child is legally incapable of giving consent to ANYTHING.

Cordially,

36 posted on 01/19/2007 12:11:27 PM PST by Diamond
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To: MPJackal
Use your imagination. All the pervert needs to shame the boy into submission is a compromising photo and an internet connection. After that he could give the kid a phone, a computer, a bike and even a truck. The pervert still owns the kid.
47 posted on 01/19/2007 12:32:32 PM PST by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: MPJackal

Oh my gosh--you can't not be serious--Once again, can't you just rejoice that a child has been found. He already has had evil in his life, now people want to make him a bad person also.
This is so sick. This poor child has so much to get through in life. A normal family life was taken from him-4 years of schooling he will have to catch on--getting to life a normal life again--AND on top of that, people like you portraying him as a kidnapper and such.
How sad for you that you just can't take this as a joyful occasion. Do you have to see evil in all things or just kidnapped child?
What do you think you would do as a 11 yrs old boy being told not only you would be killed but the family you loved also. Think about it. This man had 4 years to work his "magic" on this child.


100 posted on 01/19/2007 1:59:44 PM PST by surelyclintonsbaddream
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To: MPJackal

Kids blame themselves,
When something bad happens, they believe they deserve it, so they feel no one can love such a disgusting creature as they've become....

Toss in fear, a total inability to trust or feel safe,
shame, self hatred etc and you have the cocktail for a damaged child.
Please note,
he was a child of 11 who is turned into a trainwreck by the time he was 15.

Talk to anyone in your community who deals with kids in crisis, foster care etc. Shawn's story is mild compared to most who's hell start at birth. Doesn't matter, the damage is the same.

The fact that you can't understand means you've led a very blessed life. Feel comforted by that.


104 posted on 01/19/2007 2:05:20 PM PST by najida (Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.)
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To: MPJackal
What hold did he have over him, or was it something else. I also want to know if the boy played any part in the recent abduction.
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In the Elizabeth Smart case the same question was asked. Why didn't she leave when she had the opportunity.

Well...Elizabeth came from a very religious family and from a community that values chastity. It is possible that she was simply ashamed by the sexual abuse that she suffered, and that the Mitchels played upon her shame to their advantage.

It is possible that this young man, being the victim of homosexual abuse, was also too ashamed to rejoin his family.

When I was eight years old, a manipulative pervert enticed me to "take a walk with him to show him directions." He held my hand, and then placed it in his pocket "to keep my hand warm". His pocket was cut out, and instead, he held my hand to his penis.

Well...I did not tell my parents about this incident for more than a year. Why not? Well....I felt that it was my fault for having talked to a stranger when my parents had told me not too. I blamed myself, and did not have the maturity to realize that this man was very experienced at manipulating children.

With Elizabeth and these kidnapped boys, unfounded, and unjustified, self-shame may have played a part in their silence.
159 posted on 01/19/2007 4:28:38 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
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To: MPJackal

if you want the sordid details of what the 300# fat oaf did to the less than 100# Shawn, I feel sorry for you.....


206 posted on 01/19/2007 11:21:19 PM PST by cherry
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