Posted on 01/19/2007 6:14:25 AM PST by eraser2005
"Toyota often announces a 'recall' even if no one has complained. Toyota wants really good cars out there. And they have earned a superb reputation."
Bull! And the class action lawsuit against toileta covering about 3.5 million Toyota and Lexus vehicles a couple weeks ago? Was that a voluntary too Of course that was quite low key in the hate-America media.
My Ford F-150 (not the krispy kritter pictured above, that was a neighbor's) was *less* reliable and recalled more than this, which is my daily driver. And that says a lot about Fords.
I also have a Jeep that's betrayed me for the last time and is going up for sale.
My Duramax will make a Toyota pickup look like a Soap Box Derby cart any day, anywhere.
They are wannabees at best.
Why not Google "toyota tundra ball joint problem" (without the quotes) and see what you find. This isn't a new problem. By any chance, do you work for a Toyota stealership?
If you're talking about the action regarding oil sludging/gelling, I've got news for you. Toyota was not the only manufacturer with that problem (though they did handle it remarkably badly). VW, Ford, GM, and DC all have had problems with this, and I suspect DC is about to be the subject of the next class action on the subject.
The new superlight-weight oils are *not* good.
Nope. Never have.
The ball joints were made by Federal Mogul and are identical to the ones used on (drumroll) the GM full size pickups! Which also have the same problem and also haven't been recalled.
"So I guess Chevy's should be called burrito burners, since the frame and chasis and engine are all made and assembeled in Mexico?"
Don't give me that. GM alone employs more Americans than all the riceburner companies combined. A few low-level assembly jobs at an automated factory don't make a riceburner "American". Behind each vehicle is an entire corporate infrastructure that the Jap car makers conveniently omit in their propaganda. The real jobs and the corporate profits go to Japan. They sure do a good job of blitzing the public with slick advertising, though.
Justify your Jap car purchase any way you want. I buy American.
Your Duramax's engine is made by Isuzu.
And it's a POS, because it's an ill-engineered all-aluminum diesel that loves to blow headgaskets.
Not really - seen the latest employment figures? GM employs less than 200,000 people. Toyota alone employs almost that many directly.
And most of the Asian car companies actually have their design studios here in the States.
And in the interests of fair disclosure, I should mention that I have done some IT work in both the GM Arlington plant and for a Toyota supplier (who also supplies Ford, GM, DC, etc., etc.)
>>These were made in Indiana.<<
Which may explain the recall.
"Good. I hate Japanese cars"
Good, we can ignore any further comments from you as being completely biased, then.
"Dude" I just love to throw barbs at the riceburner religion and watch the worshipper go nuts. People can badmouth American cars relentlessly but as soon as anything is said bad about a riceburner, they are like deer-in-the- headlights; total disbelief that anyone could blaspheme there sacred vehicles.
Study up a bit on W.E. Deming. Japan took his ideas to heart after studying them to death and yes ..made a near religion out of it. Meanwhile Detroit laughed and for 40+ years turned out cars with "style" etc.. The fundamental differences between the two manufacturing approaches is not trivial. Toyota etc will continues to kick Detroit's butt for years to come...the empty suits still don't get it.
Exactly. GM is just *now* learning that putting a crappy interior into an otherwise acceptable vehicle = no sales.
You need therapy to get over your anger issues with the Japanese and Japanese vehicles. Really.
I type corrected, then.
"Exactly. GM is just *now* learning that putting a crappy interior into an otherwise acceptable vehicle = no sales."
Are you saying the interior of riceburners is attractive?
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