2008 Ford 500
Posted on 01/19/2007 6:14:25 AM PST by eraser2005
Same thing happened to my friends Honda Passport, but at 56,000 miles. Go figure...
2008 Ford 500
"Toyota IS more proactive then other manufacturers on recalls."
And you have YET to provide even the slightest lick of proof on this, while I have provided evidence to show that they are under just as many investigations by NHTSA on vehicles they have refused to recall as the next manufacturer.
Good day.
Still looks like an old Passat on steroids, if you ask me... but its hard to argue it isn't a decent choice. Especially when it is showing to have the same ballpark # of days in the shop as the new Honda Civic (see truedelta.com). And that is WITH the CVT in there. Get rid of that troublemaker.... :)
(BTW, if you don't agree with the steroids comment, wait until you see them side-by-side - the Five Hundred dwarfs the Passat.)
Sounds nice, they're not a bad looking car at all, and that front-drive V8 platform is pretty decent - a little heavy at the front and prone to torque steer, but what high-powered front-drive car isn't? I hope you have as good of luck with it as you expect, from your previous experiences.
Still think it's a pretty handsome (if somewhat bland) looking car. Could do without that great big chrome grill, but that goes for several Nissans, the new Jetta, and some others, too.
I saw a clean and shiny black 500 the other day with a good looking blond (female) driving it, black 500's are classy (especially when clean).
and Japan after it was nuked was rebuilt by whom?
The USA...
Only if it did it within the warranty period - which both of these Tauri did. I'm also using the experience that my client with the company car fleet had with Tauri in his service, but that's secondhand and not something I observed directly.
Recall search (NHTSA.dot.gov)
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/recalls/RecallSearch.cfm
Talk about splitting hairs! :)
BTW, did they go to the same mechanic? I can't tell you how many times I've seen mechanics take some symptom and contort it to what they've seen in the past with no regard to the facts of the present, knowing the fool paying the bill will be none the wiser.
For example, I *HAVE* seen mechanics call for the replacement of a Taurus transmission (not mine, which has been perfectly reliable) when in fact the transmission range sensor was bad (a more common problem on specific 96+ model years, but by no means rampant). The symptoms are VERY similar to a bad transmission, but the repair cost varies by a huge amount ($100 vs. $2-3k).
Negative - different mechanics at two unrelated and separately owned dealerships in different Dallas suburbs. In the case of the transaxle failures, I got my roommates to get a second opinion from a transmission shop I trusted because the dealer initially claimed that the female driver had abused it and that the warranty would not cover it.. That shop also mentioned sensor or solenoid failure and checked the transaxle out thoroughly. I forget the exact diagnosis, but it was definitely rebuild time - wasn't a sensor or solenoid, and the car showed no signs of abuse. A written opinion was rendered, along with a note from my attorney, and the dealer suddenly decided to honor the warranty.
The second transaxle failure was a rerun of the first incident, complete with note from attorney.
A slip of the fingers but funny. Its a Denali p/u. And no its not PU either. A very fine truck out of GM.
Well at least it was covered. FWIW, the Camry with the thrown rod had about 70k on it. And the owner IS an attorney. So much for Toyota taking care of their owners.
To be fair, though, they did completely rebuild an old Camry's engine twice for free when it failed at 40k and again at 80k, even though it only had a 1yr/12k warranty.
Well, after eight years of use, tossing a rod can't necessarily be classified as poor build/assembly quality. That's long out of any warranty save the Koreans' at this point.
At only 70K in 8 years, I wonder how well maintained it was - most cars with that low mileage are actually ill maintained, as people tend to go by miles and not time, and that's a mistake.
So, we are not at war with Japan....
Ford at least seems to have a bit of a clue - they make their interiors out of more durable materials that don't scream "I BOUGHT MY PLASTIC FROM THE CHEAPEST CHINESE VENDOR EVER!!!!"
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I haven't looked at the new ones but I had a '74 Ford F-100 that I drove about 175 thousand miles with almost no problems and sold it to my brother who drove it another 75 thousand or so. It was the cheap model custom cab but the seat was still good when my brother junked it. The low end GM pickups that year had a seat good for maybe 30,000 miles before the springs popped through. There was absolutely no comparison, the Ford was superior all the way around. I have an 89 F-150 Lariat now with 200,000 on it and the seat is almost as good as new. I have found the Ford pickups to be very reliable. I know there are a lot of people who say otherwise but I can only judge by my own experience. I have had GM cars and my experience with them boils down to "the engine lasted forever but everything else was garbage", bad paint, bad transmissions, poor interiors etc. I bought a 1980 Pontiac Pheonix x-body car new, it had a four speed manual and the four cylinder "iron duke" engine. I think the engine was built for eternity but the transmission went out at just past 30,000. The heater core didn't last 20,000 miles, the trunk lid had some kind of defect in the metal so that even stripping and repainting didn't fix the problem in the paint, little fasteners and such kept falling out from under the dash, the whole interior was shoddy. I loved the way it drove and handled and I ran it to 126,000 miles and sold it. I swear the engine was better when I sold it than when it was new but I had so many other problems I wished I could find a decent Ford and put that engine in it.
Of course, Jaguar is part of Ford now. Are your Jaguars recent models?
Not referring to any corporation by name, but I tend to think that a corporation heavily subsidized by its own national government is in a better postion to absorb financial setbacks -- like a product recall for example -- than a coporation with zero government backing.
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